Comments on: It’s not just me

By: Falstaff

Falstaff — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:48:09 +0000

Oy. What do you expect from American politics? Obama, Clinton II, McCain, Bush II, Clinton I, Bush I, Regan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, blah, blah…they’re all the freaking same.

Nobody is going to do anything to disturb the status quo, to shake the foundations of American empire, to challenge the corporations, to stand-up for human rights, to organize for justice. Nobody is going to do ANYTHING for us. Nobody.

Our government does not serve the American citizenry. It serves the corporations and the corporations only. We’ve been sold out to the highest bidder…and all you can do is offer petty complaints about an already politician who bumps ever-so-slightly more to the right? The whole system is garbage, a mish-mash of lies and deception, of half truths, of theft and corruption…and you’re complaint is that a politician doesn’t follow through on his promises?

If you think that we’ll EVER get what we want (or what we NEED) from the American political system, you’re sadly deluded. The game is rigged. And it’s not rigged in our favor. Who gives a two hoots whether a Democrat or a Republican get into office? We’re going to end up with the same crap either way.

And if you had Hillary as your candidate, do you think she would be any different, that she wouldn’t do anything or say anything to get elected? It’s not an honest person’s game….politics draws the lowest, basest forms of humanity and we elect them our leaders.

By: Eric Jaffa

Eric Jaffa — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:27:05 +0000

Jeff Jarvis writes, “So are his cultists who are now protesting his moves.”

Jarvis calls people “cultists” for objecting to the actions of a politician.

That is an obnoxious and bogus definition of cultist.

It’s called being a citizen to support a politician when he reflects your views, and to protest a politician when he doesn’t.

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:30:36 +0000

At this point, all he’d have to do is oppose abortion and he’d have the exact same positions as George W. Bush, except for wanting higher taxes.

By: bob c

bob c — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:47:43 +0000

jeff,

could you point to the job interview posts that you did on hillary, the way in which you held her feet to the fire, took her to task to stand for something

i am eager to read your post on mccain – his change in policy on issues like taxes, torture & fear mongering christians. i look forward to your critique of phil gram, charlie black & the cabal of lobbyist that surround him

By: Queen1

Queen1 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:30:17 +0000

So there really are two kinds of people in the world:
People who knew Obama is a lying, manipulative megalomaniac who makes the Clintons look like wankers.
People who also believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy and leprechauns.

For a conservative, female viewpoint, go to:
http://www.whenwearequeen.squarespace.com

By: roger rainey

roger rainey — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:20:11 +0000

Another consideration that people seldom discuss is that McCain would act as a check on the silly Pelosi/Reid Congress. Can you imagine what we will get with Obama/Pelosi/Reid in charge? Katy bar the door!

By: Naga

Naga — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:05:56 +0000

Ray,
Your comments are dead on – like you, i have turned away from progressive/liberal dogmas. In the end, there arent bigger dogmatists than the “We know whats good for you rubes” Left. Barack Obama is the perfect representation of that deeply liberal attitude.

Like so many people have pointed out, when Hillary moved to the center she was called a sell out who cannot be trusted – but when a Chicago pol like Obama does the same, he is a WISE DANIEL !! Wow, what happened to him being the “progressive torchbearer” and all ? I guess the torch is a little too hot for Barry. And his flips on FISA, NAFTA, public financing and now Iraq was some thing conservatives could see pretty clearly.

The only thing that is left for him to flip on is capital gains taxes and social security taxes. As a conservative I hope and pray that Obama changes his mind on these two very crucial issues – they are KILLER plans for an economy which is still sputtering. Hopefully just as Golsbee tempered his stupidity on NAFTA, he may calm the commie in Barry down when it comes to capital gains and taxes.

“Change you can believe in” – I BELIEVE NOW ! Lol !

By: Kay

Kay — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:37:02 +0000

This whole campaign is a David Axelrod Production. He put together a campaign and then found an empty suit as its front. He knew there were enough Democrats out there who opposed the war in Iraq from the start and were not comfortable with the return of the Clintons, that there was barely room for someone to come in and swipe the nomination from Hillary.

So I guess the better question to ask is, what are David Axelrod’s core values? What does he believe in? Because he is going to be running the country if Obama is elected.

By: Scott

Scott — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:02:18 +0000

This guy is Jimmy Carter redux.

By: Gun Toting Bible Hugger

Gun Toting Bible Hugger — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:57:45 +0000

I’ve said all along that Barry is Bill Clinton without the women.

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:56:52 +0000

Relax. It’s not sure who gets my vote until I walk into the booth. The starting point for me is a Democrat and social and lifestyle issues as well as health insurance have a great deal to do with that.

By: Gun Toting Bible Hugger

Gun Toting Bible Hugger — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:56:17 +0000

I’m laughing so hard at this I can hardly stand it. Conservatives knew from the very beginning Obama is an empty suit with no resume. But he’s young and pretty, so he’ll get a few votes. But I’m not convinced he’ll win. I think the country is going to wise up as more and more truth about his background comes out and McCain will take the election in a walk.
Abe Lincoln said you could fool some of the people some of the time, and it sure looks like you liberals, uh – excuse me – progressives got fooled big time.

By: Rev Dr. E Grady

Rev Dr. E Grady — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:12:57 +0000

And it is karma yet again causing problems with the left.

Barry is everything you accused Bush of being all those years, and a bit more, with much less real-world experience.

Enjoy. You’d vote for this guy no matter what. The left has no conscience.

By: EyesOpen

EyesOpen — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:56:51 +0000

Reading several of the liberal blogs trying to come to grips with your politician, he has you as tangled in your capes as he is. Are you for him or against him. Are your views as washed in political vanilla as his. Will you stick with him through thick and thin as he abandons you? What is your point? What are you saying here? His voting block sounds just like him.

By: zorn

zorn — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:59:58 +0000

It disturbs me that what you are saying is that Obama has your vote even though his initial positions were wrong, and his new positions are not necessarily who he is. If he was just plain wrong on important things like Iraq, he shouldn’t be the candidate, and shouldn’t have the nomination. And now that he has switched sides on darn near every issue, I am not sure we can discern any difference between him and McCain, except race and party affiliation. And at least for me, neither one of those is a magic bullet that guarantees my vote. Right now the geezer ex-pow is looking way more real.

By: Brett

Brett — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:05:51 +0000

Lets just admit it folks… Obama is just not honest! If you compared Obama’s stances today to three weeks ago… you would think we are talking about two different people. Many citizens don’t trust Bush and claim he is dishonest… yet you would be willing to replace him with someone who has proven themself to be dishonest even before taking office. That’s just not very bright!

By: joe from chi

joe from chi — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:08:57 +0000

But Mr. Obama’s shifts are striking because he was the candidate who proposed to change the face of politics, the man of passionate convictions who did not play old political games.
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He’s from Chicago, people! Jezzzz. Change my a$$ we had the same Mayor for 17+ years and his Dad for 16 year before that. C’mon….

By: Dan Kauffman

Dan Kauffman — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:56:35 +0000

What if Obama is neither Right, nor Left but a typical Cook County, will it line my pockets Pol? Check out the Boston Globe on Grove Parc Plaza for some evidence of his Core Values

By: Ray

Ray — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:34:53 +0000

oh and Jumped Off the Bandwagon, to answer your question, they are motivated by their hatred of Republicans and Pres Bush. They’ve already drank the kool aid. They know deep down inside Obama stands for nothing and will say what ever necessary to get elected. They just hate Conservatives so much that the countries future and its well being doesn’t matter. This man will destroy our economy, get more Iraqis killed(i opposed the invasion by the way) and turn our country into a Nanny State comparable to France. Obama=Bigger Government, Less Freedom. But it doesn’t matter. It makes them FEEL GOOD to support a young new face who promises “change” even though he has not once given a clear definition to “change” means. Its a narcissism at its worst. I for one like how were doing. The left and their Main Stream Media cohorts love to tell us how pathetic our lives are, that way they can promise to make it better by voting gfor them. I’m for one am sick of it. My life is good and so is most of countrymen. But the left only wins if our situation to perceived to be bad. So they repeat the lie as many times as they can cause they know eventually people will believe it.

By: Ray

Ray — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:21:30 +0000

Obama lies started the minute he started his run for the pres. He FLAT OUT lied on CNN about how he “never heard” Wrights racist rants before they were made public. the very next day gave that pathetic speech about race were he ADMITTED hearing his pastor preaching hate. Liberals love to accuse conservatives of being haters, but the truth is. Most of the hate comes from the left, from people like Father Phleger to Randy Roads. The only thing the left is good at is lying and smearing people to the point that anyone believes what they say. I know cause i used to be one of them but i woke up, i realized how unhappy i was and how being politically liberal was making my life worse. I always expected the government to give us “what we deserved”. But in the real word you have to work for it. Not just get it handed to you by a Nanny State and some scummy politician who promises “Change”.

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:36:30 +0000

bob, yes, but right now that’s beside the point. I”m a Democrat, he’s the Democratic candidate, and I hope that we don’t just buy his rhetoric but hold his feet to the fire to stand for something (which was the image he projected). This isn’t a loyalty test for me. This is a job interview for him and we’re the boss.

By: Jumped Off the Bandwagon

Jumped Off the Bandwagon — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:33:39 +0000

Here’s my question… when you vote for Obama, what the hell are you voting FOR??? His words are obviously worth nothing as he keeps reversing himself. He has very little in the way of a record to speak of. So what do we base our decision on? Are we supposed to just trust him because he says so or he looks good in a suit???? I wouldn’t hire a gardener on that kind of reference, I sure as s**t ain’t gonna vote for a President on it!

By: bob c

bob c — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:30:44 +0000

jeff,

have you ever posted any political criticism of any 2008 candidate other than barack obama ?

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:57:29 +0000

Tom,
I did. So did half the party.

By: Tom

Tom — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:56:45 +0000

Obama will do what is necessary to win, that in of itself is not a bad thing.

The bad thing is that he told his party one thing to get the nomination and another to win the office. That is like the husband who lies to his wife and bosses but is very successful. He may have won in the end but no one close to him will ever trust him.

Who would have thought that Hillary was the honest politician in the primary.