Comments on: A stake through the heart of the has-been Inquirer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:40:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: robert hession http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-413215 robert hession Sat, 01 May 2010 02:09:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-413215 the best thing to happent to the Inky is loss of ownership by the Tierney group. his concerns were not the employees but lining his own pockets with extravagant raises that he gave himself after asking union members to forego their raises. his company also refused to let employees get their jobs back after being out on disability the best thing to happent to the Inky is loss of ownership by the Tierney group. his concerns were not the employees but lining his own pockets with extravagant raises that he gave himself after asking union members to forego their raises. his company also refused to let employees get their jobs back after being out on disability

]]> By: The Military Structure of Newspapers and the Obvious Choice of the Philly Inq. « DigiDave - Journalism is a Process, Not a Product http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-392540 The Military Structure of Newspapers and the Obvious Choice of the Philly Inq. « DigiDave - Journalism is a Process, Not a Product Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:14:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-392540 [...] seems there are two sides to the argument. On the one side is boss Jarvis and Steve Outing. On the other hand Howard Owens brings an alternative view. Reading about all this [...] [...] seems there are two sides to the argument. On the one side is boss Jarvis and Steve Outing. On the other hand Howard Owens brings an alternative view. Reading about all this [...]

]]> By: Philacon Valley: The surging technology communities of Philadelphia, the Delaware Valley « Our Jawn http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-391031 Philacon Valley: The surging technology communities of Philadelphia, the Delaware Valley « Our Jawn Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:51:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-391031 [...] the major players in this two newspaper town are often criticized, they hold a particular distinction from their sister organization Philly.com, which is, fair or [...] [...] the major players in this two newspaper town are often criticized, they hold a particular distinction from their sister organization Philly.com, which is, fair or [...]

]]> By: Read the full story (with correct spellings) in The Bolton News « Manny Road http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-384059 Read the full story (with correct spellings) in The Bolton News « Manny Road Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:13:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-384059 [...] media commentators will tell you that newspapers withholding content from their online versions in the hope of encouraging people to buy t... is a futile exercise, not least because for the likes of yours truly - and many other exiled [...] [...] media commentators will tell you that newspapers withholding content from their online versions in the hope of encouraging people to buy t… is a futile exercise, not least because for the likes of yours truly – and many other exiled [...]

]]> By: Wheat From Chaff » Much Ado… - Trends, Events, and Business Strategy http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380812 Wheat From Chaff » Much Ado… - Trends, Events, and Business Strategy Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:39:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380812 [...] the organization is simply making explicit what news organizations everywhere already do. Many commentators saw things differently, but is the Inquirer really being excoriated for waiting 15 minutes, half a [...] [...] the organization is simply making explicit what news organizations everywhere already do. Many commentators saw things differently, but is the Inquirer really being excoriated for waiting 15 minutes, half a [...]

]]> By: Revolutionists and newspaper editors | forum4editors.com http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380782 Revolutionists and newspaper editors | forum4editors.com Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:02:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380782 [...] Jeff Jarvis, Steve Outing, David Carr and Roy Greenslade are probably right when they predict that the web is the future medium for journalism, but I am not sure it will work as they demand from the Inquirer: that the old-style stories from print will be moved to the web. I don’t also think that we need to be that kind of revolutionists who demolish all remains of the past right now. Who knows: maybe we will need the physical features of printed newspaper and its distribution network for some reasons we can’t imagine now? [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis, Steve Outing, David Carr and Roy Greenslade are probably right when they predict that the web is the future medium for journalism, but I am not sure it will work as they demand from the Inquirer: that the old-style stories from print will be moved to the web. I don’t also think that we need to be that kind of revolutionists who demolish all remains of the past right now. Who knows: maybe we will need the physical features of printed newspaper and its distribution network for some reasons we can’t imagine now? [...]

]]> By: Should online always be first? | forum4editors.com http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380773 Should online always be first? | forum4editors.com Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:29:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380773 [...] Jeff Jarvis, author of the Buzz Machine blog, attacked fiercely: “You are killing the paper. You might as well just burn the place down. You’re setting a match to it. This is insane. Even the slowest, most curmudgeonly, most backward in your dying, suffering industry would not be this stupid anymore. They know that the internet is the present and the future and the paper is the past. Protecting the past is no strategy for the future. It is suicide. It is murder. You should be ashamed of yourselves.” [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis, author of the Buzz Machine blog, attacked fiercely: “You are killing the paper. You might as well just burn the place down. You’re setting a match to it. This is insane. Even the slowest, most curmudgeonly, most backward in your dying, suffering industry would not be this stupid anymore. They know that the internet is the present and the future and the paper is the past. Protecting the past is no strategy for the future. It is suicide. It is murder. You should be ashamed of yourselves.” [...]

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380737 Jeff Jarvis Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:59:58 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380737 The audience is online and there's no longer a monopoly so they can replace you easily. Your occasional 10-part series about the trail of cocaine across Colombia is not going to motivate them to say. Only habit will. And habits can be broken. So if you want to be where the audience is - and where, thus, the advertisers will be - you'd better serve them well where they want to be served. Dictating to them where that has to be just won't work anymore. Monoply days are gone. The business must change, its method and scale. The audience is online and there’s no longer a monopoly so they can replace you easily. Your occasional 10-part series about the trail of cocaine across Colombia is not going to motivate them to say. Only habit will. And habits can be broken. So if you want to be where the audience is – and where, thus, the advertisers will be – you’d better serve them well where they want to be served. Dictating to them where that has to be just won’t work anymore. Monoply days are gone. The business must change, its method and scale.

]]> By: Rudolph Bell http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380731 Rudolph Bell Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:32:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380731 Why shouldn't the Inquirer give print readers a reason to pay for the product? I think the AJC in Atlanta was doing the same thing, reserving enterprise for print. I'm still waiting for hard evidence to prove wrong the claim that newspapers made a big mistake giving content away for free online. I heard Little Rock was growing in print and online, and charging for both. Why shouldn’t the Inquirer give print readers a reason to pay for the product? I think the AJC in Atlanta was doing the same thing, reserving enterprise for print.

I’m still waiting for hard evidence to prove wrong the claim that newspapers made a big mistake giving content away for free online.

I heard Little Rock was growing in print and online, and charging for both.

]]> By: bonaldi http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380645 bonaldi Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:54:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380645 <i>The point is that we need to make the leap over to the next medium and business model and an extra 10 or 100 saved copies now is NOT going to save the business as it was. It’s short-sighted and foolish.</i> What's short-sighted and foolish is this perpetual hope that the "next business model" is just going to happen along. We've been promised it for 15 years, and in the meantime newspapers have been flooding free copy on to the net and building sometimes sizable audiences. And making no money. The illusion that a web model is being created that can invest in the sort of expensive journalism that print newsrooms create is a fantasy, and until even the <i>inkling</i> of a workable business model appears newspapers would do well to resist the acceleration of their (inevitable) decline. The point is that we need to make the leap over to the next medium and business model and an extra 10 or 100 saved copies now is NOT going to save the business as it was. It’s short-sighted and foolish.
What’s short-sighted and foolish is this perpetual hope that the “next business model” is just going to happen along. We’ve been promised it for 15 years, and in the meantime newspapers have been flooding free copy on to the net and building sometimes sizable audiences.

And making no money.

The illusion that a web model is being created that can invest in the sort of expensive journalism that print newsrooms create is a fantasy, and until even the inkling of a workable business model appears newspapers would do well to resist the acceleration of their (inevitable) decline.

]]> By: racetalkblog.com » Monday Media Mailbag: Tuesday’s Edition http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380612 racetalkblog.com » Monday Media Mailbag: Tuesday’s Edition Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:19:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380612 [...] Ah, the Internet. I never managed to turn this around for yesterday, so who’s stopping me from putting it out today? Why wait a week? If only the Philadelphia Inquirer understood that. [...] [...] Ah, the Internet. I never managed to turn this around for yesterday, so who’s stopping me from putting it out today? Why wait a week? If only the Philadelphia Inquirer understood that. [...]

]]> By: Bob Benson http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380582 Bob Benson Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:21:14 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380582 Well ... I'm afraid I'm not clear on why you all think this plan is so crazy. First, I'm not convinced that on-line business plans linked mostly to ad revenue will prosper over the long haul for the majority of players. One aspect of the net is that mass isn't so easy to find, and so ad revenues will not be so easily obtained as everyone matures. Second, at least for the next twenty years, not everyone likes electronic reading. Third, a lot of the enthusiasm for this medium is by providers - people who want to write/communicate. I mean, like 81% of us have books in us? That might be true, but who's gonna read (and pay for) these books? Fourth: I suggest this mania is very much like the auto business eons ago - a thousand or more manufacturers. Everyone wants to be a supplier in this market. But sustainable? =-= My point is essentially that the business model for this "new" environment - the on-line news outlet - is certainly not proven as being sustainable for most players. And it all comes down to "show me the money." Since the Internet is the great leveler - available easily by all candidate providers - the only sustainable business plan over the long haul is to be the premier (only) provider (can anyone say Google?) So choosing to believe that transitioning to an on-line model competing with the rest of the world and for which revenue support is problematic, may be just as crazy. Well … I’m afraid I’m not clear on why you all think this plan is so crazy. First, I’m not convinced that on-line business plans linked mostly to ad revenue will prosper over the long haul for the majority of players. One aspect of the net is that mass isn’t so easy to find, and so ad revenues will not be so easily obtained as everyone matures. Second, at least for the next twenty years, not everyone likes electronic reading. Third, a lot of the enthusiasm for this medium is by providers – people who want to write/communicate. I mean, like 81% of us have books in us? That might be true, but who’s gonna read (and pay for) these books? Fourth: I suggest this mania is very much like the auto business eons ago – a thousand or more manufacturers. Everyone wants to be a supplier in this market. But sustainable?
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My point is essentially that the business model for this “new” environment – the on-line news outlet – is certainly not proven as being sustainable for most players. And it all comes down to “show me the money.” Since the Internet is the great leveler – available easily by all candidate providers – the only sustainable business plan over the long haul is to be the premier (only) provider (can anyone say Google?) So choosing to believe that transitioning to an on-line model competing with the rest of the world and for which revenue support is problematic, may be just as crazy.

]]> By: Memex 1.1 » Blog Archive » Poynter Online - Forums http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380578 Memex 1.1 » Blog Archive » Poynter Online - Forums Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:40:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380578 [...] has caused quite a stor in the blogosphere. For example, Jeff Jarvis writes: Let me make this very clear to Inquirer ownership and [...] [...] has caused quite a stor in the blogosphere. For example, Jeff Jarvis writes: Let me make this very clear to Inquirer ownership and [...]

]]> By: Chris Krewson http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380569 Chris Krewson Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:42:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380569 Jeff - and all - The "prohibition" about reporters using blogs to report their stories is wrong, an interpretation of this memo that was not intended, just as the memo itself wasn't intended for a wider audience. From a memo I'd written (co-signed by Mike Leary) that went to staff the day before the One Heard Round The World, which notes that our blog traffic is up more than 700 percent this July over last July: Blogs offer us a great way to keep people coming back to the great work produced by The Inquirer throughout their day. There's no quicker way to break news than on a blog, and no better way for us to leverage our staffing advantage over other local media. In addition, beat reporters with blogs say the process has helped them cultivate and nurture sources. Beyond that, by exponentially growing our online audience like this, we allow our online sales force to charge higher rates to advertise along side those newly popular items. That's something that will help ensure the future of The Inquirer. Web editor Ryan Sholin and I had an IM exchange about the policy here: http://ryansholin.com/2008/08/08/chris-krewson-on-philadelphia-inquirer-memo/ And, Jeff, I emailed you earlier - you're more than welcome to come to The Inquirer's newsroom and watch how we work with philly.com to grow online audience. Chris Krewson Executive Editor, Online / News The Philadelphia Inquirer Jeff – and all -
The “prohibition” about reporters using blogs to report their stories is wrong, an interpretation of this memo that was not intended, just as the memo itself wasn’t intended for a wider audience.

From a memo I’d written (co-signed by Mike Leary) that went to staff the day before the One Heard Round The World, which notes that our blog traffic is up more than 700 percent this July over last July:

Blogs offer us a great way to keep people coming back to the great work produced by The Inquirer throughout their day. There’s no quicker way to break news than on a blog, and no better way for us to leverage our staffing advantage over other local media. In addition, beat reporters with blogs say the process has helped them cultivate and nurture sources.

Beyond that, by exponentially growing our online audience like this, we allow our online sales force to charge higher rates to advertise along side those newly popular items. That’s something that will help ensure the future of The Inquirer.

Web editor Ryan Sholin and I had an IM exchange about the policy here: http://ryansholin.com/2008/08/08/chris-krewson-on-philadelphia-inquirer-memo/

And, Jeff, I emailed you earlier – you’re more than welcome to come to The Inquirer’s newsroom and watch how we work with philly.com to grow online audience.

Chris Krewson
Executive Editor, Online / News
The Philadelphia Inquirer

]]> By: Philly Inquirer’s pullback of online content just a slower form of suicide « The Future of News http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380544 Philly Inquirer’s pullback of online content just a slower form of suicide « The Future of News Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:07:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380544 [...] recognizing that its online versions are the future, they are making their online product worse. As Jeff Jarvis said, “They know that the internet is the present and the future and the paper is the past. [...] [...] recognizing that its online versions are the future, they are making their online product worse. As Jeff Jarvis said, “They know that the internet is the present and the future and the paper is the past. [...]

]]> By: Kevin Anderson http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380529 Kevin Anderson Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:52:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380529 Very interesting post as the publisher I work for is wrestling with the 'will online canibilise print' question. (Again!) Among the usual questions such as 'how do we make it a commercial success?', 'how to we deliver what our community wants?' and 'how do we deliver what are advertisers need?' is the biggest question..... 'What is our online editorial policy?' This decision has to be based on what supports the first three questions that I posed. It shouldn't be based on protecting the exclusivity of print. Very interesting post as the publisher I work for is wrestling with the ‘will online canibilise print’ question. (Again!)

Among the usual questions such as ‘how do we make it a commercial success?’, ‘how to we deliver what our community wants?’ and ‘how do we deliver what are advertisers need?’ is the biggest question…..

‘What is our online editorial policy?’

This decision has to be based on what supports the first three questions that I posed. It shouldn’t be based on protecting the exclusivity of print.

]]> By: Danny L. McDaniel http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380526 Danny L. McDaniel Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:02:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380526 This blog alone shows the modern value and power of blogs, esoecially when discussing the topic of newspapers and print journalism. The Philadelphia Inquirer is dead if it doesn't adapt and grasp the power of blogs. The printing press is far from dead by only a modern understanding of modern journalism can save and propell it into the modernity! Danny L. McDaniel Lafayette, Indiana This blog alone shows the modern value and power of blogs, esoecially when discussing the topic of newspapers and print journalism. The Philadelphia Inquirer is dead if it doesn’t adapt and grasp the power of blogs. The printing press is far from dead by only a modern understanding of modern journalism can save and propell it into the modernity!

Danny L. McDaniel
Lafayette, Indiana

]]> By: Overcoming Fear - The Courage to be Creative | steve-olson.com http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380520 Overcoming Fear - The Courage to be Creative | steve-olson.com Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:47:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380520 [...] it’ and don’t, and those who ‘get it’ and are trying to thwart it, like the Philadelphia Inquirer. The new class warfare Dereck describes is being fought between those attempting to preserve the [...] [...] it’ and don’t, and those who ‘get it’ and are trying to thwart it, like the Philadelphia Inquirer. The new class warfare Dereck describes is being fought between those attempting to preserve the [...]

]]> By: .: GAFNO.com - Hot World News Blog :. » Blog Archive » Killing the cash cow and other acts of media indecency http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380498 .: GAFNO.com - Hot World News Blog :. » Blog Archive » Killing the cash cow and other acts of media indecency Sat, 09 Aug 2008 03:43:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380498 [...] his blog, the always excellent Jeff Jarvis titled his post, “A stake through the heart of the has-been [...] [...] his blog, the always excellent Jeff Jarvis titled his post, “A stake through the heart of the has-been [...]

]]> By: Software Reviews & Free Software Download. » Blog Archive » Killing the cash cow and other acts of media indecency http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380497 Software Reviews & Free Software Download. » Blog Archive » Killing the cash cow and other acts of media indecency Sat, 09 Aug 2008 03:39:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380497 [...] his blog, the always excellent Jeff Jarvis titled his post, “A stake through the heart of the has-been [...] [...] his blog, the always excellent Jeff Jarvis titled his post, “A stake through the heart of the has-been [...]

]]> By: Killing the cash cow and other acts of media indecency « IT Spot http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380491 Killing the cash cow and other acts of media indecency « IT Spot Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:49:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380491 [...] his blog, the always excellent Jeff Jarvis titled his post, “A stake through the heart of the has-been [...] [...] his blog, the always excellent Jeff Jarvis titled his post, “A stake through the heart of the has-been [...]

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380485 Jeff Jarvis Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:26:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380485 Karl, THey may be separate operations, but they have the same owner with the same financial mess. I would take this as a sign he's not exactly investing in online. I'm all for optimism but.... Karl,
THey may be separate operations, but they have the same owner with the same financial mess. I would take this as a sign he’s not exactly investing in online. I’m all for optimism but….

]]> By: The Digital Divide Persists at the Philadelphia Inquirer « Lance Turner http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380484 The Digital Divide Persists at the Philadelphia Inquirer « Lance Turner Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:38:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380484 [...] you think you’re hearing the blogosphere howling in the distance, you probably can. More on this policy, and a response from the [...] [...] you think you’re hearing the blogosphere howling in the distance, you probably can. More on this policy, and a response from the [...]

]]> By: CounterValue / The Thanet Gazette - will the last journalist to leave, please turn out the lights? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380482 CounterValue / The Thanet Gazette - will the last journalist to leave, please turn out the lights? Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:18:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380482 [...] Jarvis recounts how the Philadelphia Inquirer has decided to hold all but breaking news back from the website to protect sales of the newspaper. [...] [...] Jarvis recounts how the Philadelphia Inquirer has decided to hold all but breaking news back from the website to protect sales of the newspaper. [...]

]]> By: Karl http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/a-stake-through-the-heart-of-the-has-been-inquirer/#comment-380481 Karl Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:05:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3777#comment-380481 I'm with ya Bill. Silly and unfortunate. Teamwork is the core of solving so many issues in this world. This looks to be a step back from that. I've been told that Philly.com does not yet have its own news staff. But as I see it, if the Inquirer (and Daily News) turn the screws this way.... well what will Philly.com need to do? It is a natural evolution with a state of affairs like exposed in the memo. There is some great stuff going on at Philly.com - check out the video segments on the home page. Embeddable and linkable. That's due to collaboration between the Inquirer/Daily News and Philly.com. They are aggregating bloggers from across the region in certain sections of the site. And Jeff knows from meeting many of the folks there - there are forward thinkers fighting to move things in a good direction. I remain an optimist - because I believe in the people there. But damn. I’m with ya Bill. Silly and unfortunate.

Teamwork is the core of solving so many issues in this world. This looks to be a step back from that.

I’ve been told that Philly.com does not yet have its own news staff.

But as I see it, if the Inquirer (and Daily News) turn the screws this way…. well what will Philly.com need to do? It is a natural evolution with a state of affairs like exposed in the memo.

There is some great stuff going on at Philly.com – check out the video segments on the home page. Embeddable and linkable. That’s due to collaboration between the Inquirer/Daily News and Philly.com.

They are aggregating bloggers from across the region in certain sections of the site.

And Jeff knows from meeting many of the folks there – there are forward thinkers fighting to move things in a good direction.

I remain an optimist – because I believe in the people there.

But damn.

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