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		<title>By: c3 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Discoveries</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-381276</link>
		<dc:creator>c3 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Discoveries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Don&#8217;t you love the passion of this blog entry and the following discussion dealing with  creativity, abundance/scarcity and what not: http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Don&#8217;t you love the passion of this blog entry and the following discussion dealing with  creativity, abundance/scarcity and what not: <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gottsegen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-381228</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Gottsegen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps everyone is making too much of this.

We are all "creative."  Just witness a child at play -- every single one of them is creative and imaginative.

A question:  What happens to that creativity and imagination as we grow up?  One answer: it is repressed, first by our parents, then by our schools, and finally by our work-a-day lives.  Your answer?

Another question:  Is every creative act worth saving?  An answer:  history, not us, will show whether our creative acts today are worth considering tomorrow.  Your answer?

There is nothing we can do about history -- it is littered with the forgotten and unrecorded.  That doesn't mean that our creative acts today are meaningless, it only fulfills the aphorism, "Time edits with a heavy hand."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps everyone is making too much of this.</p>
<p>We are all &#8220;creative.&#8221;  Just witness a child at play &#8212; every single one of them is creative and imaginative.</p>
<p>A question:  What happens to that creativity and imagination as we grow up?  One answer: it is repressed, first by our parents, then by our schools, and finally by our work-a-day lives.  Your answer?</p>
<p>Another question:  Is every creative act worth saving?  An answer:  history, not us, will show whether our creative acts today are worth considering tomorrow.  Your answer?</p>
<p>There is nothing we can do about history &#8212; it is littered with the forgotten and unrecorded.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that our creative acts today are meaningless, it only fulfills the aphorism, &#8220;Time edits with a heavy hand.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: azita</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-381197</link>
		<dc:creator>azita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree.  i.e. I post my illustrations on Flickr, as do tons of others, and while there are sub-par works galore, there are so many illustrators/artiss whose works are just astonishingly novel or beautiful or both.  It is inspiring.   And yes, the elite emerge with their devoted comment-ers and favorite'rs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree.  i.e. I post my illustrations on Flickr, as do tons of others, and while there are sub-par works galore, there are so many illustrators/artiss whose works are just astonishingly novel or beautiful or both.  It is inspiring.   And yes, the elite emerge with their devoted comment-ers and favorite&#8217;rs.</p>
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		<title>By: Paradigm Shifts &#171; My Little Piece of the Internet</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-381093</link>
		<dc:creator>Paradigm Shifts &#171; My Little Piece of the Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Uncategorized &#160;  BuzzMachine&#8217;s Jeff Jarvis recently posted an article entitled &#8216;The  Myth of the Creative Class,&#8217; examining, in short, the effect that Web 2.0 is having on the development of prosumers and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Betti</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380911</link>
		<dc:creator>Betti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jeff, I think I will get your book and hope to have time to read it. You see, I spend 10 hours a day working in front of a screen. I work in the business of communication. The clients I deal with are mostly fashion and accessories brand. I also work for the entertaining business and all this means that all they long I spend my time creating visuals that inspire desire for unnecessary objects, or hype around pop songs and their ego maniac performers. My day is completely absorbed by the job of being creative (another word for selling) for people who create themselves. Your article on the subject of pop (popular) creative drive is both fascinating and at the same time minifying. That everybody has art in themselves and they have a damn right to express it anyway they can, I agree with you. Is there any better way than Internet to touch as many people as possible? My question is: When do I find the time to read your book (or any book) if I am so busy with the digital landscape out there? Do I need to sacrify my sleeping hours in order to be part of this marvelous opportunity out there? How many hours do we spend working (and I mean working, not browsing), how many hours do we spend enjoying other people creativity? How many hours do we spend surfing the net for information? Don't you think that alongside talking about all this wonderful, amazing digital opportunities, we should also spend a little time thinking about the effects of all this on our brain, meaning sanity? Dont' take me wrong, I love google generation, I don't even remember how life and friendship and love affairs, and information, and entertainment, and research, used to happen anymore. I consult the web even for recipes on stuffed zucchini or where moth come from or how to get rid of them. It's instant, it's amazingly useful. But don't you think that alongside the business side of internet, the social usefulness, the blah blah amzingness of it all, some words should be spent on how faster is the technology compared to how we adapt to it. I mean as people. I feel the need of wise words on this subject,  I hope your book will touch this issue. Hopefully I can schedule to read it by year 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jeff, I think I will get your book and hope to have time to read it. You see, I spend 10 hours a day working in front of a screen. I work in the business of communication. The clients I deal with are mostly fashion and accessories brand. I also work for the entertaining business and all this means that all they long I spend my time creating visuals that inspire desire for unnecessary objects, or hype around pop songs and their ego maniac performers. My day is completely absorbed by the job of being creative (another word for selling) for people who create themselves. Your article on the subject of pop (popular) creative drive is both fascinating and at the same time minifying. That everybody has art in themselves and they have a damn right to express it anyway they can, I agree with you. Is there any better way than Internet to touch as many people as possible? My question is: When do I find the time to read your book (or any book) if I am so busy with the digital landscape out there? Do I need to sacrify my sleeping hours in order to be part of this marvelous opportunity out there? How many hours do we spend working (and I mean working, not browsing), how many hours do we spend enjoying other people creativity? How many hours do we spend surfing the net for information? Don&#8217;t you think that alongside talking about all this wonderful, amazing digital opportunities, we should also spend a little time thinking about the effects of all this on our brain, meaning sanity? Dont&#8217; take me wrong, I love google generation, I don&#8217;t even remember how life and friendship and love affairs, and information, and entertainment, and research, used to happen anymore. I consult the web even for recipes on stuffed zucchini or where moth come from or how to get rid of them. It&#8217;s instant, it&#8217;s amazingly useful. But don&#8217;t you think that alongside the business side of internet, the social usefulness, the blah blah amzingness of it all, some words should be spent on how faster is the technology compared to how we adapt to it. I mean as people. I feel the need of wise words on this subject,  I hope your book will touch this issue. Hopefully I can schedule to read it by year 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: RT Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380879</link>
		<dc:creator>RT Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm. Interesting stuff. I realize I'm a bit late to the party but I thought I'd toss in my two cents:

If you make something, but anyone can copy it, means you're gonna have a really tough time making any money from it, and since you still need money to buy food, shelter, clothing, etc, it's going to destroy all sorts of economies. I fear that going forward, people/micro celebrities will have to stay below a certain size otherwise they could become a target of piracy and lose much of their ability to make money from their creations, when they can be replicated for very little.

What that means is that people who want to make money have to enforce some sort of artificial sort of scarcity so that they can still profit from their work. That's where copyright comes in, it gives people who's work has a physical value of very little (even Sheakespeare's writings are nothing by scratches on paper).

It reminds me of one of the earliest film makers, Melies I think, he made A Trip to the Moon, and never made much from it because pirates copied his film (including Edison--famous man but really quite a jerk).

All in all, I'd say that while very cool: mating a world of abundance with a world of scarcity is and will remain a challenge. Artists may get to share their works with teh world for very little, but they still need to eat. If/when technology further reduces the costs of physical needs, then we'll really see an amazing world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm. Interesting stuff. I realize I&#8217;m a bit late to the party but I thought I&#8217;d toss in my two cents:</p>
<p>If you make something, but anyone can copy it, means you&#8217;re gonna have a really tough time making any money from it, and since you still need money to buy food, shelter, clothing, etc, it&#8217;s going to destroy all sorts of economies. I fear that going forward, people/micro celebrities will have to stay below a certain size otherwise they could become a target of piracy and lose much of their ability to make money from their creations, when they can be replicated for very little.</p>
<p>What that means is that people who want to make money have to enforce some sort of artificial sort of scarcity so that they can still profit from their work. That&#8217;s where copyright comes in, it gives people who&#8217;s work has a physical value of very little (even Sheakespeare&#8217;s writings are nothing by scratches on paper).</p>
<p>It reminds me of one of the earliest film makers, Melies I think, he made A Trip to the Moon, and never made much from it because pirates copied his film (including Edison&#8211;famous man but really quite a jerk).</p>
<p>All in all, I&#8217;d say that while very cool: mating a world of abundance with a world of scarcity is and will remain a challenge. Artists may get to share their works with teh world for very little, but they still need to eat. If/when technology further reduces the costs of physical needs, then we&#8217;ll really see an amazing world.</p>
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		<title>By: We&#8217;re in the greatest era of creativity in human history &#171; GaryNielson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380747</link>
		<dc:creator>We&#8217;re in the greatest era of creativity in human history &#171; GaryNielson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis BuzzMachine.com (included in my blogroll) wrote recently: One survey I quote says that 81 percent of us say we have a book in us. Another survey says that a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: We&#8217;re in the greatest era of creativity in human history &#171; GaryNielson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380746</link>
		<dc:creator>We&#8217;re in the greatest era of creativity in human history &#171; GaryNielson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis BuzzMachine.com (included in my blogroll) wrote recently of the vast creativity empowered by the Web...  One survey I quote says that 81 percent of us say we have a book in us. Another survey says that a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jarvis BuzzMachine.com (included in my blogroll) wrote recently of the vast creativity empowered by the Web&#8230;  One survey I quote says that 81 percent of us say we have a book in us. Another survey says that a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cheyanne</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380657</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheyanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creativity and the creative ones amongst us have always been considered of a frivilous nature. Creating is a luxury really.  Who has the time for such hare-brained ideas when one has to work.  I've seen all the TED talks listed here by the commenters about the lack of creativity in our American school system.  The best line repeated in the TED talks to come out of a kids mouth  was about the picture she was drawing of God.  The teacher says "But nobody knows what God looks like" and the child replies "They will  when I'm done this drawing this" just about says it all. It's hilarious!  Out of the mouths of kids.
It's the abstract that we create in.  Therein lies the key to the new Media, The Creative Class and hopefully making some righteous from our creations.  In any case, sometimes it is just the passion that makes us do what we do. If only money was the by-product of the Creative Class I think we'd all be happier campers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creativity and the creative ones amongst us have always been considered of a frivilous nature. Creating is a luxury really.  Who has the time for such hare-brained ideas when one has to work.  I&#8217;ve seen all the TED talks listed here by the commenters about the lack of creativity in our American school system.  The best line repeated in the TED talks to come out of a kids mouth  was about the picture she was drawing of God.  The teacher says &#8220;But nobody knows what God looks like&#8221; and the child replies &#8220;They will  when I&#8217;m done this drawing this&#8221; just about says it all. It&#8217;s hilarious!  Out of the mouths of kids.<br />
It&#8217;s the abstract that we create in.  Therein lies the key to the new Media, The Creative Class and hopefully making some righteous from our creations.  In any case, sometimes it is just the passion that makes us do what we do. If only money was the by-product of the Creative Class I think we&#8217;d all be happier campers.</p>
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		<title>By: Creative Class &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Will the Internet Kill the Creative Class? - Creative Class</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380647</link>
		<dc:creator>Creative Class &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Will the Internet Kill the Creative Class? - Creative Class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aug 13th 2008 at 1:21pm EDTWill the Internet Kill the Creative Class?      Buzz Machine&#8217;s Jeff Jarvis thinks so:Internet curmudgeons argue that Google et al are bringing society to ruin precisely [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#160; How Copyright Is Holding Back The Creative Class&#160;by&#160;Wacky Geeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#160; How Copyright Is Holding Back The Creative Class&#160;by&#160;Wacky Geeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to more and more people, and the latest is Jeff Jarvis, who has come to the conclusion that the &#8220;creative class&#8221; is a myth. And he&#8217;s right. These days, we&#8217;re all the creative class &#8212; and copyright is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to more and more people, and the latest is Jeff Jarvis, who has come to the conclusion that the &#8220;creative class&#8221; is a myth. And he&#8217;s right. These days, we&#8217;re all the creative class &#8212; and copyright is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Creativity and Creative Commons : Brad Meador - downtime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creativity and Creative Commons : Brad Meador - downtime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis says that every minute 10 hours of video is posted on YouTube.&#160; Wow. Hopefully you find his observations about the massive amount of internet-fueled creativity as interesting as I do: This has surely always been the case. The internet doesn’t make us more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jarvis says that every minute 10 hours of video is posted on YouTube.&nbsp; Wow. Hopefully you find his observations about the massive amount of internet-fueled creativity as interesting as I do: This has surely always been the case. The internet doesn’t make us more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary Democrats United &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Campaign Updates for 8/11/08</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380571</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary Democrats United &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Campaign Updates for 8/11/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The myth of the creative class (by Jeff Jarvis) [W]e are shifting … from a culture of scarcity to one of abundance. That is the essence of the Google worldview: managing abundance. So let’s assume that instead of a scarcity there is an abundance of talent and a limitless will to create but it has been tamped down by an educational system that insists on sameness; starved by a mass economic system that rewarded only a few giants; and discouraged by a critical system that anointed a closed, small creative class. Now talent of many descriptions and levels can express itself and grow. We want to create and we want to be generous with our creations. And we will get the attention we deserve. Well not always, Jeff.  Some really trivial stuff gets a lot of attention, and some stuff that deserves attention gets little or none.  Because we not only have to be the creators of content, we have to be its marketers, too, if we’re not getting the attention we THINK we deserve. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The myth of the creative class (by Jeff Jarvis) [W]e are shifting … from a culture of scarcity to one of abundance. That is the essence of the Google worldview: managing abundance. So let’s assume that instead of a scarcity there is an abundance of talent and a limitless will to create but it has been tamped down by an educational system that insists on sameness; starved by a mass economic system that rewarded only a few giants; and discouraged by a critical system that anointed a closed, small creative class. Now talent of many descriptions and levels can express itself and grow. We want to create and we want to be generous with our creations. And we will get the attention we deserve. Well not always, Jeff.  Some really trivial stuff gets a lot of attention, and some stuff that deserves attention gets little or none.  Because we not only have to be the creators of content, we have to be its marketers, too, if we’re not getting the attention we THINK we deserve. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Meghan</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380568</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"books are such an echo chamber"...

That's really unfortunate view.  And it shows in your writing, as it is quite difficult to have an intelligent conversation on the Creative Class when you don't know who you are referencing- Richard Florida, the man who came up with the concept.

Interestingly enough, Florida may not totally disagree with some of your views, but too bad you did not take into account a person whose done decades of research on the subject before forming an opinion.

That's the problem with the internet- its a dearth of unfounded opinion, lack of actual information.  The echo chamber is actually this posting- someone talking just to hear themselves speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;books are such an echo chamber&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s really unfortunate view.  And it shows in your writing, as it is quite difficult to have an intelligent conversation on the Creative Class when you don&#8217;t know who you are referencing- Richard Florida, the man who came up with the concept.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, Florida may not totally disagree with some of your views, but too bad you did not take into account a person whose done decades of research on the subject before forming an opinion.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem with the internet- its a dearth of unfounded opinion, lack of actual information.  The echo chamber is actually this posting- someone talking just to hear themselves speak.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-08-11 [delicious.com] &#171; Mediating Conflict</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-08-11 [delicious.com] &#171; Mediating Conflict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robb Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380564</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too, thought the headline was misleading. Expecting you to debate the theories and models presented in Richard Florida's books on the rise and fall of The Creative Class. Maybe you should have snuck the phrase "Long tail" in there too. Might help the old SEO a bit.

"Hildi, get me rewrite!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too, thought the headline was misleading. Expecting you to debate the theories and models presented in Richard Florida&#8217;s books on the rise and fall of The Creative Class. Maybe you should have snuck the phrase &#8220;Long tail&#8221; in there too. Might help the old SEO a bit.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hildi, get me rewrite!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Thaksin exits stage left&#8230; at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thaksin exits stage left&#8230; at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the rise of publicness and the general consensus of the crowd or google effect. First article is this: The internet doesn’t make us more creative, I don’t think. But it does enable what we create [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the rise of publicness and the general consensus of the crowd or google effect. First article is this: The internet doesn’t make us more creative, I don’t think. But it does enable what we create [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SecondSelf</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380542</link>
		<dc:creator>SecondSelf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "crap will be ignored" and the good stuff will be copied...

Ignoring the crap is only half the problem. The other half of the problem is making sure there are enough people motivated to do the hard work of writing the good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;crap will be ignored&#8221; and the good stuff will be copied&#8230;</p>
<p>Ignoring the crap is only half the problem. The other half of the problem is making sure there are enough people motivated to do the hard work of writing the good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 
Amen, but I wouldn't say it is either/or. Google itself is working on energy and  health care and I'd say they help with education. Time? Even they can't do much about that. But they do make us more efficient, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
Amen, but I wouldn&#8217;t say it is either/or. Google itself is working on energy and  health care and I&#8217;d say they help with education. Time? Even they can&#8217;t do much about that. But they do make us more efficient, no?</p>
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		<title>By: John Dodds</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380539</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes we live in an an age of abundance - but surely also an age of scarcity of time, energy, water, healthcare, good education?

The true test of the Google age will be whether it can produce solutions to those fundamental issues rather than the crowdsourcing of a car colour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes we live in an an age of abundance - but surely also an age of scarcity of time, energy, water, healthcare, good education?</p>
<p>The true test of the Google age will be whether it can produce solutions to those fundamental issues rather than the crowdsourcing of a car colour.</p>
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		<title>By: Overcoming Fear - The Courage to be Creative &#124; steve-olson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380519</link>
		<dc:creator>Overcoming Fear - The Courage to be Creative &#124; steve-olson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis writes, &#8220;we are shifting, too, from a culture of scarcity to one of abundance.&#8221; While we live in a world of potential abundance, there are obstacles to realizing this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jarvis writes, &#8220;we are shifting, too, from a culture of scarcity to one of abundance.&#8221; While we live in a world of potential abundance, there are obstacles to realizing this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Owens</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380515</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, you might find this &lt;a href="http://www.wallstrip.com/2007/11/16/11-16-07-wallstrip-chat-robert-kalin/" rel="nofollow"&gt;interview with the CEO of Itsy &lt;/a&gt; interesting.  Rob talks about marketplaces as communities -- in the olden days you went to the marketplace to see things you've never seen before, to find a wife, to get the news of the day.  It was the place to trade and barter.

The concept is not far off from what I've written before about digital enabling a return to "campfire media" -- media on a very human scale, personal and as much about community and communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you might find this <a href="http://www.wallstrip.com/2007/11/16/11-16-07-wallstrip-chat-robert-kalin/" rel="nofollow">interview with the CEO of Itsy </a> interesting.  Rob talks about marketplaces as communities &#8212; in the olden days you went to the marketplace to see things you&#8217;ve never seen before, to find a wife, to get the news of the day.  It was the place to trade and barter.</p>
<p>The concept is not far off from what I&#8217;ve written before about digital enabling a return to &#8220;campfire media&#8221; &#8212; media on a very human scale, personal and as much about community and communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Men, The Creative Urge and Why We All Abandon Our Tumblrs &#171; Scrawled in Wax</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/08/07/the-myth-of-the-creative-class/#comment-380514</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Men, The Creative Urge and Why We All Abandon Our Tumblrs &#171; Scrawled in Wax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all, is the grand mantra of internet proselytisers: no longer is creativity the sole domain of an elite class; the barriers of entry to the new public space have become so low and so open that anyone can blog, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all, is the grand mantra of internet proselytisers: no longer is creativity the sole domain of an elite class; the barriers of entry to the new public space have become so low and so open that anyone can blog, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fortinbras :: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The myth of the creative class :: August :: 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fortinbras :: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The myth of the creative class :: August :: 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The myth of the creative class Internet curmudgeons argue that Google et al are bringing society to ruin precisely because they rob the creative class of its financial support and exclusivity: its pedestal. But internet triumphalists, like me, argue that the internet opens up creativity past one-size-fits-all mass measurements and priestly definitions and lets us not only find what we like but find people who like what we do. The internet kills the mass, once and for all. With it comes the death of mass economics and mass media, but I don&#8217;t lament that, not for a moment. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BuzzMachine &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; The myth of the creative class Internet curmudgeons argue that Google et al are bringing society to ruin precisely because they rob the creative class of its financial support and exclusivity: its pedestal. But internet triumphalists, like me, argue that the internet opens up creativity past one-size-fits-all mass measurements and priestly definitions and lets us not only find what we like but find people who like what we do. The internet kills the mass, once and for all. With it comes the death of mass economics and mass media, but I don&rsquo;t lament that, not for a moment. [...]</p>
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