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		<title>By: djeusby</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Saleh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andre, very good rorpet…lots of good stuff in there. I can’t wait for more. I’m coaching that akward age of U12 boys and maintaining their attention during practice is sometimes nearly impossible. I think I do things too much like a drill sargeant (Military) and I need to make it more fun and enjoyable….I do work them hard. I just keep in the back of my head they will be a Premiere team next Spring and they are very far behind in their developement vs. the rest of the league. I am definately going to try all the drills and games you’ve recommended. Can’t wait for more!!Yours in Soccer,Jo-AnnWpg, MB Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andre, very good rorpet…lots of good stuff in there. I can’t wait for more. I’m coaching that akward age of U12 boys and maintaining their attention during practice is sometimes nearly impossible. I think I do things too much like a drill sargeant (Military) and I need to make it more fun and enjoyable….I do work them hard. I just keep in the back of my head they will be a Premiere team next Spring and they are very far behind in their developement vs. the rest of the league. I am definately going to try all the drills and games you’ve recommended. Can’t wait for more!!Yours in Soccer,Jo-AnnWpg, MB Canada</p>
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		<title>By: Hassaan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear that COW. I&#8217;ve had the same ecperienxes with designers and writers who not only lie about experience, but have a solid (assumingly fake) portfolio to back up their claims. I&#8217;ve had friends/associates also have these same ecperienxes, almost as if the portfolio wasn&#8217;t from the same designer. Ever have that happen? Very frustrating. It definitely defeats the purpose of hiring a freelancer when they end up wasting your time instead of saving it. That&#8217;s the unfortunate part of finding VAs and freelancers online. You have to weed out the bad ones, and hang on to the solid ones. I love your ideas on making oDesk better. I still haven&#8217;t tried them out, but I am going to. Appreciate the continuing, honest review. I especially look forward to the &#8220;how to checklist&#8221;.Hope it works out for youCheers!Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear that COW. I&#8217;ve had the same ecperienxes with designers and writers who not only lie about experience, but have a solid (assumingly fake) portfolio to back up their claims. I&#8217;ve had friends/associates also have these same ecperienxes, almost as if the portfolio wasn&#8217;t from the same designer. Ever have that happen? Very frustrating. It definitely defeats the purpose of hiring a freelancer when they end up wasting your time instead of saving it. That&#8217;s the unfortunate part of finding VAs and freelancers online. You have to weed out the bad ones, and hang on to the solid ones. I love your ideas on making oDesk better. I still haven&#8217;t tried them out, but I am going to. Appreciate the continuing, honest review. I especially look forward to the &#8220;how to checklist&#8221;.Hope it works out for youCheers!Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Sevda</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, i am not used to pssniag comments on discussions, but i am quite impressed by this site, so i will certainly visit again</description>
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		<title>By: Jenny18</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 16:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wonderful and informative post, but I would to share something about nursing. Nursing has been one of the most valuable and rewarding careers for decades and data indicates that it will continue to be in high demand for decades to come.

Take a look at : &lt;a href=&quot;http://medicaljobinformation.wordpress.com/various-career-vistas-for-registered&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nurse Education&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wonderful and informative post, but I would to share something about nursing. Nursing has been one of the most valuable and rewarding careers for decades and data indicates that it will continue to be in high demand for decades to come.</p>
<p>Take a look at : <a href="http://medicaljobinformation.wordpress.com/various-career-vistas-for-registered" rel="nofollow">Nurse Education</a><a></a></p>
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		<title>By: We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace – A fresh look at John Barlow‘s declaration of the independence of Cyberspace &#124; iCentered</title>
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		<dc:creator>We will create a civilization of the Mind in Cyberspace – A fresh look at John Barlow‘s declaration of the independence of Cyberspace &#124; iCentered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] web is ours.  Our natural digital habitat. The 3rd estate, as Jeff Jarvis calls it. A new world with no hierarchical organizational power to which we should [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The building block of journalism is no longer the article (Jeff Jarvis, Buzz Machine, 30/9/08) : Centro de Estudios de Medios</title>
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		<dc:creator>The building block of journalism is no longer the article (Jeff Jarvis, Buzz Machine, 30/9/08) : Centro de Estudios de Medios</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] at hand to create new structures for covering news and informing each other. As I said in the post below, old structures are crumbling and new structures will be built in their place. We need to create [...]</description>
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		<title>By: FC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now what?
Odd paradox.
&quot;“It’s an odd paradox that this will shrink even further any kind of public space to talk about race,” says Angela Dillard, a professor of Afro-American and African studies at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor in the article. “That shouldn’t be possible, but it is.”

Glenn Loury, a Brown University economist, says that an Obama victory would weaken arguments for affirmative action. Black voters, he said, “are voting for the end of affirmative action and they don’t even know it.

“They’re voting for the end of race and they don’t even know it,” said Mr. Loury, who is black.&quot;
http://chronicle.com/blogs/election/2317/obama-presents-dilemma-for-scholars-of-race

&quot;Then what will we do as race scholars?&quot; wondered University of Virginia political scientist Lynn Sanders.

&quot;But in March, as he watched Obama&#039;s race speech in Philadelphia, Steinberg, who is white, e-mailed his surprise at what he was hearing: &quot;His candidacy hinged on putting a happy face on racism, and here he reveals, to his credit, knowledge and compassion about racism and its tentacles into the present. He was running away from history, and this has forced him to talk about the past, which blows away his transcendental cover.&quot;&quot;

&quot;&quot;I think it will be hugely positive if (Obama) wins, because there will be this possibility of a more genuine conversation between scholars of different orientations,&quot; said Sanders, who with Donald Kinder authored &quot;Divided by Color.&quot;

&quot;I think it will mess up the congestion in a way that will be very healthy. I can&#039;t wait for that part of it.&quot;&quot;
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/for_americas_scholars_of_race.html

I guess for academics it&#039;s a study.  It could turn into a mess and fuel racist hate groups and violence against minorities.  It could be a new &quot;affirmative action&quot; with poor whites feeling threatened.  It could be very unhealthy and the academics will take no credit for that.  People don&#039;t even know what they are voting for.  They are voting for big money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now what?<br />
Odd paradox.<br />
&#8220;“It’s an odd paradox that this will shrink even further any kind of public space to talk about race,” says Angela Dillard, a professor of Afro-American and African studies at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor in the article. “That shouldn’t be possible, but it is.”</p>
<p>Glenn Loury, a Brown University economist, says that an Obama victory would weaken arguments for affirmative action. Black voters, he said, “are voting for the end of affirmative action and they don’t even know it.</p>
<p>“They’re voting for the end of race and they don’t even know it,” said Mr. Loury, who is black.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://chronicle.com/blogs/election/2317/obama-presents-dilemma-for-scholars-of-race" rel="nofollow">http://chronicle.com/blogs/election/2317/obama-presents-dilemma-for-scholars-of-race</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Then what will we do as race scholars?&#8221; wondered University of Virginia political scientist Lynn Sanders.</p>
<p>&#8220;But in March, as he watched Obama&#8217;s race speech in Philadelphia, Steinberg, who is white, e-mailed his surprise at what he was hearing: &#8220;His candidacy hinged on putting a happy face on racism, and here he reveals, to his credit, knowledge and compassion about racism and its tentacles into the present. He was running away from history, and this has forced him to talk about the past, which blows away his transcendental cover.&#8221;"</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;I think it will be hugely positive if (Obama) wins, because there will be this possibility of a more genuine conversation between scholars of different orientations,&#8221; said Sanders, who with Donald Kinder authored &#8220;Divided by Color.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it will mess up the congestion in a way that will be very healthy. I can&#8217;t wait for that part of it.&#8221;"<br />
<a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/for_americas_scholars_of_race.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/for_americas_scholars_of_race.html</a></p>
<p>I guess for academics it&#8217;s a study.  It could turn into a mess and fuel racist hate groups and violence against minorities.  It could be a new &#8220;affirmative action&#8221; with poor whites feeling threatened.  It could be very unhealthy and the academics will take no credit for that.  People don&#8217;t even know what they are voting for.  They are voting for big money.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayala Rahav</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/09/30/the-rise-of-the-third-estate/#comment-383620</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayala Rahav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What now? As the impassess of a top down world are increasingly felt across significant areas, isn&#039;t it time to to acknowledge  that if wed on&#039;t do something about it we&#039;ll only get more of the same - but worse?

It&#039;s time for game change!  to start paving the way to change the prevailing paradigms into a borttom-up  Icentered paradigm. (www.icentered.org) where, we, individuals are at the center, with the wheel in our hands and collaboratively define a new pact of relations with the entities we interact with (providers, organizations, social sphere).
 
It&#039;s easiest to start with the 3rd estate of the internet and make it truly a web of life - as it is OUR web and increasingly our virtual habitat. Once the internet is turned  on its head to enable a true vantage points of individuals as micro universes of one with distinct needs and wishes, communities will arise to enable it in a groundswell process and next generations leaders and orders will emerge and infiltrate into the brick and mortat world as well because the borders are increasingly blurring.
 
More on Being Icentered and collaboratively defining the blueprint for an Icentered paradigm in www.icentered.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What now? As the impassess of a top down world are increasingly felt across significant areas, isn&#8217;t it time to to acknowledge  that if wed on&#8217;t do something about it we&#8217;ll only get more of the same &#8211; but worse?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for game change!  to start paving the way to change the prevailing paradigms into a borttom-up  Icentered paradigm. (www.icentered.org) where, we, individuals are at the center, with the wheel in our hands and collaboratively define a new pact of relations with the entities we interact with (providers, organizations, social sphere).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easiest to start with the 3rd estate of the internet and make it truly a web of life &#8211; as it is OUR web and increasingly our virtual habitat. Once the internet is turned  on its head to enable a true vantage points of individuals as micro universes of one with distinct needs and wishes, communities will arise to enable it in a groundswell process and next generations leaders and orders will emerge and infiltrate into the brick and mortat world as well because the borders are increasingly blurring.</p>
<p>More on Being Icentered and collaboratively defining the blueprint for an Icentered paradigm in <a href="http://www.icentered.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.icentered.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Wall Street is lie.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No, it&#039;s not, Jeff.  You&#039;re dead wrong about that.

You are confusing the rot that necessarily sets in when government presumes to intercede in affairs of that sort.  The &quot;lie&quot; comes from &lt;i&gt;Washington&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;.  You ought to get this straight.

You&#039;re wrong.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Wall Street is lie.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not, Jeff.  You&#8217;re dead wrong about that.</p>
<p>You are confusing the rot that necessarily sets in when government presumes to intercede in affairs of that sort.  The &#8220;lie&#8221; comes from <i>Washington</i><i>.  You ought to get this straight.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong.</i></p>
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		<title>By: bwl zwei null &#183; Über die Kreditkrise und das Web 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>bwl zwei null &#183; Über die Kreditkrise und das Web 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ganz anderem Kaliber sind da die Überlegungen von Jeff Jarvis. Er sieht eine enorme Tragweite für die aktuellen Vorgänge und stellt dabei nüchtern fest, dass [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; In a strictly limited sense, unregulated markets may maximize average well-being in the short term, but do much more poorly for mean well-being, and over the long term, accelerating inequalities can lead to additional costs even at the top of the food-chain (extreme examples are food-riots and epidemics) and more violent boom-and-bust cycles.

Mean is average.  Perhaps the author meant median.  (Bill Gates coming to town changes the mean wealth a lot but barely changes the median.)

Ignoring mathematical issues (which is a stretch, given the technical tone of the above), an example of the phenomena described would have been a good thing.

Yes, there are places where the rich get rich and the poor are deprived, but they&#039;re not &quot;unregulated economies&quot; - they&#039;re govt-run economies.  Some use formal oppression systems while others don&#039;t bother, but they&#039;re not unregulated in any meaningful sense.

As to the US (which isn&#039;t unregulated, but let&#039;s assume for the sake of argument that it is), our inequality leads to poor folks with multiple TVs, cell phones, obesity, and the like.  Food riots?  Yeah right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; In a strictly limited sense, unregulated markets may maximize average well-being in the short term, but do much more poorly for mean well-being, and over the long term, accelerating inequalities can lead to additional costs even at the top of the food-chain (extreme examples are food-riots and epidemics) and more violent boom-and-bust cycles.</p>
<p>Mean is average.  Perhaps the author meant median.  (Bill Gates coming to town changes the mean wealth a lot but barely changes the median.)</p>
<p>Ignoring mathematical issues (which is a stretch, given the technical tone of the above), an example of the phenomena described would have been a good thing.</p>
<p>Yes, there are places where the rich get rich and the poor are deprived, but they&#8217;re not &#8220;unregulated economies&#8221; &#8211; they&#8217;re govt-run economies.  Some use formal oppression systems while others don&#8217;t bother, but they&#8217;re not unregulated in any meaningful sense.</p>
<p>As to the US (which isn&#8217;t unregulated, but let&#8217;s assume for the sake of argument that it is), our inequality leads to poor folks with multiple TVs, cell phones, obesity, and the like.  Food riots?  Yeah right.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8250; links for 2008-10-01</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8250; links for 2008-10-01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The rise of the third estate (tags: buzzmachine internet revolution potential)     This was written by Gerard Barberi. Posted on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, at 6:02 pm. Filed under Del.icio.us. Bookmark the permalink. Follow comments here with the RSS feed. Post a comment or leave a trackback.     var disqus_url = &#039;http://www.gerardsprojects.com/2008/10/01/links-for-2008-10-01/ &#039;; var disqus_title = &#039;links for 2008-10-01&#039;; var disqus_message = &#039;%0ABuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The rise of the third estate%0A(tags: buzzmachine internet revolution potential)%0A&#039;;   View the entire comment thread.  &#8249; links for 2008-09-29 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: francine hardaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>francine hardaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this post, but I don&#039;t know what to think of what lies ahead.  On the one hand, we now have the instantaneous communication necessary for a truly representative government, and at east the advisors to politicians know how to use the tools.

 On the other hand, we seem to have a populace that thinks Sarah Palin represents us because she&#039;s &quot;Joe Six-Pack.&quot; The entire concept of the President as a world leader has given way over the past ten years (roughly from Clinton&#039;s blow job thru Dubya) to distrust of anyone who knows anything about issues in favor of someone you&#039;d like to have a beer with.

Scoble&#039;s been having an internal debate with himself about whether crowdsourcing will work or not, and I&#039;m right there with him in my ambivalent position. The good thing is we voted down the bailout. The bad thing is we may have voted it down for the wrong reasons: we (Main Street) didn&#039;t think the current financial crisis affects &quot;us.&quot; We thought we were only bailing out &quot;them.&quot;

Until people recognize that the internet, for better or worse, has made us all interconnected in ways we might not have been previously, we will not be able to seize the reins of our government in a responsible way.

Pray fr us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this post, but I don&#8217;t know what to think of what lies ahead.  On the one hand, we now have the instantaneous communication necessary for a truly representative government, and at east the advisors to politicians know how to use the tools.</p>
<p> On the other hand, we seem to have a populace that thinks Sarah Palin represents us because she&#8217;s &#8220;Joe Six-Pack.&#8221; The entire concept of the President as a world leader has given way over the past ten years (roughly from Clinton&#8217;s blow job thru Dubya) to distrust of anyone who knows anything about issues in favor of someone you&#8217;d like to have a beer with.</p>
<p>Scoble&#8217;s been having an internal debate with himself about whether crowdsourcing will work or not, and I&#8217;m right there with him in my ambivalent position. The good thing is we voted down the bailout. The bad thing is we may have voted it down for the wrong reasons: we (Main Street) didn&#8217;t think the current financial crisis affects &#8220;us.&#8221; We thought we were only bailing out &#8220;them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Until people recognize that the internet, for better or worse, has made us all interconnected in ways we might not have been previously, we will not be able to seize the reins of our government in a responsible way.</p>
<p>Pray fr us.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael R. Bernstein</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/09/30/the-rise-of-the-third-estate/#comment-383554</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael R. Bernstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must also say that this characterization of Capitalism is mistaken, if only because it is actually Economics that fits the description &#039;assuming that people are one-dimensional beings concerned only with the pursuit of maximum profit.&#039;

And even Economics doesn&#039;t fit that particular description very well anymore, as it has been (over the last few decades) turning away from the view that markets can be adequately described as collections of rational actors acting in their clear self-interest. Economics has also been turning away from the view that unregulated markets inevitably act to maximize overall well-being.

In a strictly limited sense, unregulated markets may maximize average well-being in the short term, but do much more poorly for mean well-being, and over the long term, accelerating inequalities can lead to additional costs even at the top of the food-chain (extreme examples are food-riots and epidemics) and more violent boom-and-bust cycles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must also say that this characterization of Capitalism is mistaken, if only because it is actually Economics that fits the description &#8216;assuming that people are one-dimensional beings concerned only with the pursuit of maximum profit.&#8217;</p>
<p>And even Economics doesn&#8217;t fit that particular description very well anymore, as it has been (over the last few decades) turning away from the view that markets can be adequately described as collections of rational actors acting in their clear self-interest. Economics has also been turning away from the view that unregulated markets inevitably act to maximize overall well-being.</p>
<p>In a strictly limited sense, unregulated markets may maximize average well-being in the short term, but do much more poorly for mean well-being, and over the long term, accelerating inequalities can lead to additional costs even at the top of the food-chain (extreme examples are food-riots and epidemics) and more violent boom-and-bust cycles.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Capitalism takes a narrow view of human nature, assuming that people are one-dimensional beings concerned only with the pursuit of maximum profit.

No, it isn&#039;t.  Capitalism takes the view that each of us gets to decide what is important to us and act on that in concert with like-minded people.

The failure was a govt &quot;encouraged&quot; edict that banks should loan money to people who had little chance of paying it back.  Dems pushed this and Repubs were insufficiently vigorous in opposing it.

Of course, if you&#039;re wont to believe the usual &quot;it&#039;s all about money&quot;, note that Wall Street&#039;s campaign contributions almost all go to Dems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Capitalism takes a narrow view of human nature, assuming that people are one-dimensional beings concerned only with the pursuit of maximum profit.</p>
<p>No, it isn&#8217;t.  Capitalism takes the view that each of us gets to decide what is important to us and act on that in concert with like-minded people.</p>
<p>The failure was a govt &#8220;encouraged&#8221; edict that banks should loan money to people who had little chance of paying it back.  Dems pushed this and Repubs were insufficiently vigorous in opposing it.</p>
<p>Of course, if you&#8217;re wont to believe the usual &#8220;it&#8217;s all about money&#8221;, note that Wall Street&#8217;s campaign contributions almost all go to Dems.</p>
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		<title>By: Tansley - addendum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tansley - addendum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VERY right-on, Marc Dangeard...

I&#039;m reminded of the Doonesbury cartoon in which an associate of Uncle Duke&#039;s, a brilliant Indian surgeon, is attempting to transplant the heart of a liberal into an ailing conservative.  He tells Duke that what he&#039;s hoping for is someone &#039;who&#039;ll act out of a sense of enlightened self-interest&#039;...to which Duke retorts &quot;Yeah - but what happens if you just get a BIGOT who likes BRIE?&quot;  The surgeon nonchalently replies &quot;I&#039;ll pull the PLUG...I take pride in my work...&quot;

I was having just this sort of discussion you point up with the conservatives in our advertising department at the paper, and explaining to one enquiring mind the &#039;why&#039; of the nation&#039;s current financial crisis - namely the wholesale deregulation of industry begun under the Reagan administration.  My own salesman, an &#039;enlightened&#039; conservative, accused me of giving this questioner &#039;the NPR version&#039; of events, at which point I rounded on him and hit him with hard science (my last and typically most effective resort.)  &quot;Look,&quot; I said, &quot;this is NOT a condition exclusive to HUMANS: most of your higher carbon-based lifeforms will HOARD WEALTH as a hedge to ensure survival: SQUIRRELS do it, though they don&#039;t always remember where they BURY the NUTS, CHIPMUNKS do it, HAMSTERS do it...&quot; (okay, admittedly, I was favoring rodents here...I really meant to draw no comparisons) &quot;...so it&#039;s it&#039;s an entirely natural principle of PHYSICS.&quot;  

Essentially, two factors were responsible for the current crisis: the decline of the moral/ethical fabric of *REAL* religion in this country that provided the social glue to hold society and family together, and the rise of materialistic worship as a substitute.  There is no one set event one can point to where either of these processes commenced - both have been ongoing gestalts for an indefinite amount of time.  Let me add that my mention of religion is NOT intended to include the fundamentalism of the current &#039;religious right&#039; in this country - I am referring rather to the moral/ethical compass that was once a mainstay of MOST Christian churches, which filtered its way into our society via the practices of the individuals who attended these churches.  As people have given up support of these religious institutions and focuses instead on their worship of the almighty dollar, it has become &#039;ethically conscionable&#039; to &#039;screw thy neighbor&#039; in the name of greed.

Capitalism, bereft of any social conscience, simply does not work.  Period.  What happens is shown in our own country: we have gone from being a Democracy to our current status as a Plutocratic Oligarchy: rule by the wealthy few.  This wealthy few care about we, the people, only insofar as our consumption continues to fill their coffers.  It&#039;s the &#039;Haves&#039; vs. the &#039;Have-Nots,&#039; as it has always been....from time immemorial...

&quot;Only when the last tree has withered, the last fish has been caught, and the last river has been poisoned, will you realize you cannot eat money.&quot;  
---Unknown Cree Native American, addressing the white man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VERY right-on, Marc Dangeard&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of the Doonesbury cartoon in which an associate of Uncle Duke&#8217;s, a brilliant Indian surgeon, is attempting to transplant the heart of a liberal into an ailing conservative.  He tells Duke that what he&#8217;s hoping for is someone &#8216;who&#8217;ll act out of a sense of enlightened self-interest&#8217;&#8230;to which Duke retorts &#8220;Yeah &#8211; but what happens if you just get a BIGOT who likes BRIE?&#8221;  The surgeon nonchalently replies &#8220;I&#8217;ll pull the PLUG&#8230;I take pride in my work&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I was having just this sort of discussion you point up with the conservatives in our advertising department at the paper, and explaining to one enquiring mind the &#8216;why&#8217; of the nation&#8217;s current financial crisis &#8211; namely the wholesale deregulation of industry begun under the Reagan administration.  My own salesman, an &#8216;enlightened&#8217; conservative, accused me of giving this questioner &#8216;the NPR version&#8217; of events, at which point I rounded on him and hit him with hard science (my last and typically most effective resort.)  &#8220;Look,&#8221; I said, &#8220;this is NOT a condition exclusive to HUMANS: most of your higher carbon-based lifeforms will HOARD WEALTH as a hedge to ensure survival: SQUIRRELS do it, though they don&#8217;t always remember where they BURY the NUTS, CHIPMUNKS do it, HAMSTERS do it&#8230;&#8221; (okay, admittedly, I was favoring rodents here&#8230;I really meant to draw no comparisons) &#8220;&#8230;so it&#8217;s it&#8217;s an entirely natural principle of PHYSICS.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Essentially, two factors were responsible for the current crisis: the decline of the moral/ethical fabric of *REAL* religion in this country that provided the social glue to hold society and family together, and the rise of materialistic worship as a substitute.  There is no one set event one can point to where either of these processes commenced &#8211; both have been ongoing gestalts for an indefinite amount of time.  Let me add that my mention of religion is NOT intended to include the fundamentalism of the current &#8216;religious right&#8217; in this country &#8211; I am referring rather to the moral/ethical compass that was once a mainstay of MOST Christian churches, which filtered its way into our society via the practices of the individuals who attended these churches.  As people have given up support of these religious institutions and focuses instead on their worship of the almighty dollar, it has become &#8216;ethically conscionable&#8217; to &#8217;screw thy neighbor&#8217; in the name of greed.</p>
<p>Capitalism, bereft of any social conscience, simply does not work.  Period.  What happens is shown in our own country: we have gone from being a Democracy to our current status as a Plutocratic Oligarchy: rule by the wealthy few.  This wealthy few care about we, the people, only insofar as our consumption continues to fill their coffers.  It&#8217;s the &#8216;Haves&#8217; vs. the &#8216;Have-Nots,&#8217; as it has always been&#8230;.from time immemorial&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Only when the last tree has withered, the last fish has been caught, and the last river has been poisoned, will you realize you cannot eat money.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;Unknown Cree Native American, addressing the white man</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Dangeard</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/09/30/the-rise-of-the-third-estate/#comment-383515</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Dangeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to be optimistic, and I believe that while we have tough times ahead of us this is also a time of opportunity: as you mention, when things are starting to fail it makes room for new options. 
This is a crisis of the system, and there has been energy building around the idea that the system needs to be reconsidered. We have social media, people have realized that they participate, influence (Yochai Benkler - Wealth of Networks), and social business is making its way into the mainstream. Here comes the time for us to implement these ideas that have been brewing. This is where I expect the next big thing to come from.

With the crisis happening now, the words from Muhammad Yunus &quot;capitalism is a half-developed structure&quot; come back to mind.
And what he develops in the first chapter of his book &quot;Creating a world without poverty - social business and the future of capitalism&quot; resonate even more deeply:
&quot;Capitalism takes a narrow view of human nature, assuming that people are one-dimensional beings concerned only with the pursuit of maximum profit. The concept of the free market, as generally understood, is based on this one-dimensional human being. Mainstream free-market theory postulates that you are contributing to the society and the world in the best possible manner if you just concentrate on getting the most for yourself.&quot;

If we are going to fix this system, I would like to follow Muhammad Yunus train of thoughts:
&quot;The presence of our multi-dimensional personalities means that not every business should be bound to serve the single objective of profit maximization&quot;
This is also what Bo Burlingham puts forward when he presents &quot;Small Giants - companies that choose to be great instead of big&quot;.

For a &quot;what now&quot; I am thinking social business, bringing the human back into the equation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to be optimistic, and I believe that while we have tough times ahead of us this is also a time of opportunity: as you mention, when things are starting to fail it makes room for new options.<br />
This is a crisis of the system, and there has been energy building around the idea that the system needs to be reconsidered. We have social media, people have realized that they participate, influence (Yochai Benkler &#8211; Wealth of Networks), and social business is making its way into the mainstream. Here comes the time for us to implement these ideas that have been brewing. This is where I expect the next big thing to come from.</p>
<p>With the crisis happening now, the words from Muhammad Yunus &#8220;capitalism is a half-developed structure&#8221; come back to mind.<br />
And what he develops in the first chapter of his book &#8220;Creating a world without poverty &#8211; social business and the future of capitalism&#8221; resonate even more deeply:<br />
&#8220;Capitalism takes a narrow view of human nature, assuming that people are one-dimensional beings concerned only with the pursuit of maximum profit. The concept of the free market, as generally understood, is based on this one-dimensional human being. Mainstream free-market theory postulates that you are contributing to the society and the world in the best possible manner if you just concentrate on getting the most for yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>If we are going to fix this system, I would like to follow Muhammad Yunus train of thoughts:<br />
&#8220;The presence of our multi-dimensional personalities means that not every business should be bound to serve the single objective of profit maximization&#8221;<br />
This is also what Bo Burlingham puts forward when he presents &#8220;Small Giants &#8211; companies that choose to be great instead of big&#8221;.</p>
<p>For a &#8220;what now&#8221; I am thinking social business, bringing the human back into the equation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Abbott</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/09/30/the-rise-of-the-third-estate/#comment-383491</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Some call it Freedom.  Sort of like the type that was abroad when we won independence from England in the late 1700&#039;s.</description>
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<p>Some call it Freedom.  Sort of like the type that was abroad when we won independence from England in the late 1700&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Did news media fail us at a critical moment? &#8212; Zero Percent Idle</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/09/30/the-rise-of-the-third-estate/#comment-383480</link>
		<dc:creator>Did news media fail us at a critical moment? &#8212; Zero Percent Idle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here&#8217;s Jeff Jarvis: I’m reminded of Bob Garfield’s chaos scenario for advertising, in which he argued that the old [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WebMetricsGuru &#187; Social Media Tools are becoming indespensible - need for invention</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/09/30/the-rise-of-the-third-estate/#comment-383477</link>
		<dc:creator>WebMetricsGuru &#187; Social Media Tools are becoming indespensible - need for invention</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] interesting post from Jeff Jarvis today about The rise of the third estate and the need for Social Media participation and, by extension, Social Media Measurment- though what [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Shaum</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/09/30/the-rise-of-the-third-estate/#comment-383476</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Shaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this vote is The Beginning of The End. The administration and Congressional leadership tried to practice Consensus By Sledgehammer, and failed; rightfully so. Now they&#039;ll have to go back and do it right, as they should have done from the start: listen, negotiate, compromise, deal with the people&#039;s concerns.

I think you have the big picture right, though. Power is in the process of shifting from top-down structures to bottom-up ones; and many people will notice the former and not the latter, and conclude that we are sliding into anarchy. (The David Brooks essay you link is a neat example of that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this vote is The Beginning of The End. The administration and Congressional leadership tried to practice Consensus By Sledgehammer, and failed; rightfully so. Now they&#8217;ll have to go back and do it right, as they should have done from the start: listen, negotiate, compromise, deal with the people&#8217;s concerns.</p>
<p>I think you have the big picture right, though. Power is in the process of shifting from top-down structures to bottom-up ones; and many people will notice the former and not the latter, and conclude that we are sliding into anarchy. (The David Brooks essay you link is a neat example of that.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need some rules on the Internet, particularly in regard to copyright theft and pornography.  Not having rules that are enforced is resulting in vigilante acts by the broadband providers (ie they are shutting down people using bittorrent and webcam products, whether they are illegal or not).

Its a vicious circle, you reap what you sow, and the carefree laissez faire attitude prevalent on the Internet has started to result in some ugly consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need some rules on the Internet, particularly in regard to copyright theft and pornography.  Not having rules that are enforced is resulting in vigilante acts by the broadband providers (ie they are shutting down people using bittorrent and webcam products, whether they are illegal or not).</p>
<p>Its a vicious circle, you reap what you sow, and the carefree laissez faire attitude prevalent on the Internet has started to result in some ugly consequences.</p>
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		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/09/30/the-rise-of-the-third-estate/#comment-383466</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The building block of journalism is no longer the article</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should take out a mortgage on that house at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC</description>
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