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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: &#8211; Jeff Jarvis calls bullshit on journalists</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8211; Jeff Jarvis calls bullshit on journalists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] how &#8220;the fall of journalism is, indeed, journalists? fault.&#8221;    Read the article here. Already some heated comments on this: Ian Betteridge says: &#8220;Whether you agree with Farhi et [...]</description>
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		<title>By: old bankruptcy records</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-409716</link>
		<dc:creator>old bankruptcy records</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an affecting take on this subject. I am glad you shared your ideas and I find myself agreeing. I appreciate your clear writing and the effort you have put into this post. Thanks for the good work and good luck with the blog, I greatly look forward to future updates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an affecting take on this subject. I am glad you shared your ideas and I find myself agreeing. I appreciate your clear writing and the effort you have put into this post. Thanks for the good work and good luck with the blog, I greatly look forward to future updates.</p>
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		<title>By: Shot in the Dark &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Calling BS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shot in the Dark &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Calling BS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis, himself a J-School faculty member, judges the journalism biz, finds them wanting, and they&#8217;ve brought it on themselves. The fall of journalism is, indeed, journalists’ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Technolo-j &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Fall of Newspapers</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-398972</link>
		<dc:creator>Technolo-j &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Fall of Newspapers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s an interesting debate taking place on a blog I read frequently. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: J. Patrick McGrail</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-387257</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Patrick McGrail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Jarvis:

I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t accept your central thesis, i.e. that journalists themselves are the (or a) primary cause of the demise of print reportage. Transformations in information delivery have been so swift, so prevalent and so multi-dimensional that the objective, double-sourced, narrowly focused product of the journalist has had to compete with the opinion-laced, secondarily-sourced, provocatively worded opinion pieces that many people confuse with shoeleather journalism. Ironically, the very thing that is capsizing traditional journalism - the rise of blogging - gets the grist for its mill from the very journalists that provide it with source content.
But let&#039;s sift that grist for a bit. I think we need to draw some distinctions. I don&#039;t know anyone who believes that the NYT is going to go away anytime soon. That&#039;s because it&#039;s a &quot;national&quot; paper, that only ancillarily has Gotham as its local beat. It has money and the resources to maintain foreign bureaus, and it can compete toe to toe with the wire services.
No, the real problem is more with local print-based journalism. It&#039;s suffering because people now really can get most of the info they need locally online, for the first time ever. As recently as five years ago, this wasn&#039;t the case. If you wanted to know what nightclub or opera was hot in, say, Syracuse, NY or Altoona, PA, you had to pick up either the local paper or the alternative weekly, if it existed. Now, however, nearly any sort of info about nearly any kind of entertainment can be found online. That&#039;s because the venues now advertise themselves online, without the medium of the newspaper. Or they piggyback on one of those &quot;Altoona at Nite&quot; local happenings websites. Cheaper, and they get to control the content more. You just google the name of the club, opera or gardening event, and you get a website.
So how come online papers haven&#039;t worked? This is a surprisingly complex problem, and has to do with behavior differences in the public and the history of the internet, among other things. 
The net began with the idea that things would be freely shared, and that seems to have cultivated in the consumer a reluctance to pay for anything if he doesn&#039;t absolutely have to. Both the NYT and the Wall Street Journal have flirted with subscriptions, with very, very limited success. Right now, all NYT content is free, and much of WSJ content is. 
Another issue is that we may believe (at our core, biologically -whatever) that we should always pay for something that physically exists, like a paper. But something that&#039;s just pixels on a screen? Nah. Remember, it took cable a long time to convince people to pay for content that they could get with their rabbit ears for free. And the internet gets better reception than rabbit ears OR cable.
Throw in the incredible ease and anonymity with which people can share the rantings and non sequiturs they call opinions (newspapers almost always require name and address for letters to the editor, so as to avoid such irresponsible opinion-mongering) and you have a recipe for a great, inky black and white newshole, disappearing before our very eyes.
Lurking amid all of the above is that snarky little disciplinarian, objectivity. Journalism is supposed to be about the facts, but the net and its denizens care little for this value, and this disadvantages journalists. Mr. Jarvis, you appear to be saying that journalists failed to &quot;sex up&quot; their coverage, to link to everything, give a bit of opinion in the soupcon, follow a story beyond its newsworthiness, etc. Maybe you&#039;re right. But at some point, the journalism you would be talking about wouldn&#039;t be journalism.
I haven&#039;t even talked about how Hollywood, for some reason, nearly always lampoons journalists in its fictional pieces. They are portrayed as self-absorbed sleazemeisters after the next juicy tidbit. Absent always from such musings is the role of the public in desiring this fare.
Nope, newspapers were doomed no matter what journalists did. The world has begun to demand divertment and leisure with its accounting of facts. Some of us, who teach our students to revere the gathering of facts, are having trouble prostrating before the new gods, Gossip and Rumour.

J. Patrick McGrail
Dept. of Communication
Jacksonville State University
Jacksonville, AL 36265</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Jarvis:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t accept your central thesis, i.e. that journalists themselves are the (or a) primary cause of the demise of print reportage. Transformations in information delivery have been so swift, so prevalent and so multi-dimensional that the objective, double-sourced, narrowly focused product of the journalist has had to compete with the opinion-laced, secondarily-sourced, provocatively worded opinion pieces that many people confuse with shoeleather journalism. Ironically, the very thing that is capsizing traditional journalism &#8211; the rise of blogging &#8211; gets the grist for its mill from the very journalists that provide it with source content.<br />
But let&#8217;s sift that grist for a bit. I think we need to draw some distinctions. I don&#8217;t know anyone who believes that the NYT is going to go away anytime soon. That&#8217;s because it&#8217;s a &#8220;national&#8221; paper, that only ancillarily has Gotham as its local beat. It has money and the resources to maintain foreign bureaus, and it can compete toe to toe with the wire services.<br />
No, the real problem is more with local print-based journalism. It&#8217;s suffering because people now really can get most of the info they need locally online, for the first time ever. As recently as five years ago, this wasn&#8217;t the case. If you wanted to know what nightclub or opera was hot in, say, Syracuse, NY or Altoona, PA, you had to pick up either the local paper or the alternative weekly, if it existed. Now, however, nearly any sort of info about nearly any kind of entertainment can be found online. That&#8217;s because the venues now advertise themselves online, without the medium of the newspaper. Or they piggyback on one of those &#8220;Altoona at Nite&#8221; local happenings websites. Cheaper, and they get to control the content more. You just google the name of the club, opera or gardening event, and you get a website.<br />
So how come online papers haven&#8217;t worked? This is a surprisingly complex problem, and has to do with behavior differences in the public and the history of the internet, among other things.<br />
The net began with the idea that things would be freely shared, and that seems to have cultivated in the consumer a reluctance to pay for anything if he doesn&#8217;t absolutely have to. Both the NYT and the Wall Street Journal have flirted with subscriptions, with very, very limited success. Right now, all NYT content is free, and much of WSJ content is.<br />
Another issue is that we may believe (at our core, biologically -whatever) that we should always pay for something that physically exists, like a paper. But something that&#8217;s just pixels on a screen? Nah. Remember, it took cable a long time to convince people to pay for content that they could get with their rabbit ears for free. And the internet gets better reception than rabbit ears OR cable.<br />
Throw in the incredible ease and anonymity with which people can share the rantings and non sequiturs they call opinions (newspapers almost always require name and address for letters to the editor, so as to avoid such irresponsible opinion-mongering) and you have a recipe for a great, inky black and white newshole, disappearing before our very eyes.<br />
Lurking amid all of the above is that snarky little disciplinarian, objectivity. Journalism is supposed to be about the facts, but the net and its denizens care little for this value, and this disadvantages journalists. Mr. Jarvis, you appear to be saying that journalists failed to &#8220;sex up&#8221; their coverage, to link to everything, give a bit of opinion in the soupcon, follow a story beyond its newsworthiness, etc. Maybe you&#8217;re right. But at some point, the journalism you would be talking about wouldn&#8217;t be journalism.<br />
I haven&#8217;t even talked about how Hollywood, for some reason, nearly always lampoons journalists in its fictional pieces. They are portrayed as self-absorbed sleazemeisters after the next juicy tidbit. Absent always from such musings is the role of the public in desiring this fare.<br />
Nope, newspapers were doomed no matter what journalists did. The world has begun to demand divertment and leisure with its accounting of facts. Some of us, who teach our students to revere the gathering of facts, are having trouble prostrating before the new gods, Gossip and Rumour.</p>
<p>J. Patrick McGrail<br />
Dept. of Communication<br />
Jacksonville State University<br />
Jacksonville, AL 36265</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! So many comments yet your problem is laid out in black and white in the article itself:

&quot;A Gallup survey says 52 percent of Americans do not trust news media, up from 30 percent in 1972.&quot;

Gee, let&#039;s see, half the population thinks you&#039;re brazen liars. Okay? You with me? Then the internet comes along to provide an alternative. Still following? Now guess what happens next.

Yea guess. I realize you&#039;re just journalists but I can&#039;t spoon feed you all day. Go ahead and guess.

If you still can&#039;t figure it out try scratching your head while concentrating real hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! So many comments yet your problem is laid out in black and white in the article itself:</p>
<p>&#8220;A Gallup survey says 52 percent of Americans do not trust news media, up from 30 percent in 1972.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, let&#8217;s see, half the population thinks you&#8217;re brazen liars. Okay? You with me? Then the internet comes along to provide an alternative. Still following? Now guess what happens next.</p>
<p>Yea guess. I realize you&#8217;re just journalists but I can&#8217;t spoon feed you all day. Go ahead and guess.</p>
<p>If you still can&#8217;t figure it out try scratching your head while concentrating real hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Bon Journo (Sunny Days for Virtual Real Estate?) &#171; The Daily Wrazz</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-386391</link>
		<dc:creator>Bon Journo (Sunny Days for Virtual Real Estate?) &#171; The Daily Wrazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis, &#8220;It Is Our Fault&#8221; (Buzz Machine, October 8, 2008) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Swaraaj Chauhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swaraaj Chauhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good...Carry on Jeff. I think a debate on this generally neglected subject is very useful. Media does play a crucial role in helping democracy retain its vibrancy and health. 

Media is a powerful tool to educate/prepare the public to wage the real war against terrorism at the grassroots level. 

I believe that the demise of real print journalism began in the newsrooms where the authority of the NEWS EDITOR, and sub editors, was taken away. The unsupervised reporters began to call the shots and we can see the results.

The reason for the demise of NEWS EDITOR are many. But it helped the newspaper owners/management to smuggle in what is described as advertorials. The free mixing of opinions/manipulations in hard news led to the fall of credibility of the newspapers.

NEWS EDITOR used to be the &quot;Sergeant Major&quot; directly in touch with the ground realities and leading the charge. He had to manage the juniors under him and resist the machinations of the Editor and the newspaper owners/management. 

Neutralizing of the NEWS EDITOR has led to major aberrations in the newspaper industry.

Now readers find it difficult to differentiate between opinions, news or advertisements. Earlier the newspapers ensured that a particular section of the newspaper would carry objective news, the other section would carry opinions and the place for advertisements was fixed too.

However, I do not share the doom and gloom prophecy for newspapers. They have survived for over 200 years...and would do so even now, although in a quite a different incarnation.

My post on the subject appears here...  http://themoderatevoice.com/media/newspapers/24557/journalism-a-last-roll-of-the-dice/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good&#8230;Carry on Jeff. I think a debate on this generally neglected subject is very useful. Media does play a crucial role in helping democracy retain its vibrancy and health. </p>
<p>Media is a powerful tool to educate/prepare the public to wage the real war against terrorism at the grassroots level. </p>
<p>I believe that the demise of real print journalism began in the newsrooms where the authority of the NEWS EDITOR, and sub editors, was taken away. The unsupervised reporters began to call the shots and we can see the results.</p>
<p>The reason for the demise of NEWS EDITOR are many. But it helped the newspaper owners/management to smuggle in what is described as advertorials. The free mixing of opinions/manipulations in hard news led to the fall of credibility of the newspapers.</p>
<p>NEWS EDITOR used to be the &#8220;Sergeant Major&#8221; directly in touch with the ground realities and leading the charge. He had to manage the juniors under him and resist the machinations of the Editor and the newspaper owners/management. </p>
<p>Neutralizing of the NEWS EDITOR has led to major aberrations in the newspaper industry.</p>
<p>Now readers find it difficult to differentiate between opinions, news or advertisements. Earlier the newspapers ensured that a particular section of the newspaper would carry objective news, the other section would carry opinions and the place for advertisements was fixed too.</p>
<p>However, I do not share the doom and gloom prophecy for newspapers. They have survived for over 200 years&#8230;and would do so even now, although in a quite a different incarnation.</p>
<p>My post on the subject appears here&#8230;  <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/media/newspapers/24557/journalism-a-last-roll-of-the-dice/" rel="nofollow">http://themoderatevoice.com/media/newspapers/24557/journalism-a-last-roll-of-the-dice/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Journalists as self-interested, rational actors &#124; fix journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-385620</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalists as self-interested, rational actors &#124; fix journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis says it&#8217;s the fault of journalists and was then roundly criticized (see Ron Rosenbaum in Slate, Is Jeff Jarvis gloating too much about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vladimir Wordsmith'ry</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-385437</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladimir Wordsmith'ry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JARVIS, JEFF: Bloviatory Baby Boomer desperate for finger/pulse cyber-cred.

SEE ALSO: Lefsetz, Bob; irrelevant; tired; old; geriatric; fading; mind-thuddingly insignificant in any serious Internet journalism-related discussion; chicken broth, ancient addled mind cured in; dead horse on the information superhighway; rusted buzz; list of Time Warner employees who consider ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY among their accomplishments even though they were fired from ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY long before ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY culturally mattered.</description>
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<p>SEE ALSO: Lefsetz, Bob; irrelevant; tired; old; geriatric; fading; mind-thuddingly insignificant in any serious Internet journalism-related discussion; chicken broth, ancient addled mind cured in; dead horse on the information superhighway; rusted buzz; list of Time Warner employees who consider ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY among their accomplishments even though they were fired from ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY long before ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY culturally mattered.</p>
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		<title>By: Finance Geek » Slate Rips Jeff Jarvis A New One</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-385272</link>
		<dc:creator>Finance Geek » Slate Rips Jeff Jarvis A New One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis&#8217; response to an essay by Paul Farhi that suggested the current crisis in journalism might not be entirely the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: When the lights go on at the New York Times, our work can start &#171; Jon Udell</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-385059</link>
		<dc:creator>When the lights go on at the New York Times, our work can start &#171; Jon Udell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and become a propaganda arm of the left. In so doing, they have sullied their brands and lost the trust of their readers. The economic consequences of this default of their value proposition are now becoming apparent. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yes, &#8220;It is our fault&#8221; &#124; byJoeyBaker</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384855</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes, &#8220;It is our fault&#8221; &#124; byJoeyBaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent round of blog posts (1, 2, 3) responding to a Washington Post article on the victimization of the press, Jeff Jarvis writes: The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Numbness McLuhan Style :: New MediaTheory</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384743</link>
		<dc:creator>Numbness McLuhan Style :: New MediaTheory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to me to be is the most dramatic factor driving the current reevaluation. Here in a post entitled It Is Our Fault from Jeff Jarvis at Buzz Machine on the state of the debate: Paul Farhi of the Washington Post [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Post 11: Sunday 12 October 2008 &#124; Margaret's 3rd year journalism blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Post 11: Sunday 12 October 2008 &#124; Margaret's 3rd year journalism blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read an excellent blog titled It is our fault, posted on 8 October 2008  (http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/) BuzzMachine author, Jeff Jarvis starts by disputing other media people&#8217;s opinions that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bloggers: Teaching the Traditional Journalism Dog New Tricks &#171; Simple Girl In A Complex Technological World</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384533</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloggers: Teaching the Traditional Journalism Dog New Tricks &#171; Simple Girl In A Complex Technological World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Advance Internet and independent blogger Jeff Jarvis agrees with my opinion and mentions in his blog, “BuzzMachine” [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kiyoshi Martinez - nerdlusus blog &#8211; Advertising plunge will kill newspapers &#8212; and there won&#8217;t be a bailout</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384468</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiyoshi Martinez - nerdlusus blog &#8211; Advertising plunge will kill newspapers &#8212; and there won&#8217;t be a bailout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blaming the economy and technology for the downfall of newspapers. Nor should time be wasted with journalists blaming themselves. At this point, who gives a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: (Not quite) The end of journalism &#171; Ethical Martini</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384450</link>
		<dc:creator>(Not quite) The end of journalism &#171; Ethical Martini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a second post on the topic responding to Jeff Jarvis, Roy makes this abundantly clear. Jeff took it upon himself to issue a collective mea culpa on behalf of all journalists: It is our fault that we did not give adequate stewardship to journalism and left the business to the business people. It is our fault that we lost readers and squandered trust. It is our fault that we sat back and expected to be supported in the manner to which we had become accustomed by some unknown princely patron. Responsibility and blame are indeed ours. (Jarvis - the fault is ours) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In a second post on the topic responding to Jeff Jarvis, Roy makes this abundantly clear. Jeff took it upon himself to issue a collective mea culpa on behalf of all journalists: It is our fault that we did not give adequate stewardship to journalism and left the business to the business people. It is our fault that we lost readers and squandered trust. It is our fault that we sat back and expected to be supported in the manner to which we had become accustomed by some unknown princely patron. Responsibility and blame are indeed ours. (Jarvis &#8211; the fault is ours) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo DoJo &#187; Behold, Web 3.0</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384422</link>
		<dc:creator>MoJo DoJo &#187; Behold, Web 3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not the time to be pointing fingers, Jeff Jarvis. Learning from our mistakes, however, is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is it journalists&#8217; fault? &#171; Media Luddite</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384340</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it journalists&#8217; fault? &#171; Media Luddite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post is fittingly some thoughts on this recent post from Jeff Jarvis, his own response to posts by Paul Farhi and Roy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: First post, on the crisis of journalism - kahos.net</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384302</link>
		<dc:creator>First post, on the crisis of journalism - kahos.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis, Paul Farhi, Roy Greenslade  and Adrian Monck have been discussing about the crisis of newspaper [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blogs Killed the Journalism Star &#171; Tony Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384289</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogs Killed the Journalism Star &#171; Tony Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read this post by Jeff Jarvis on the death of newpaper journalism.  I have a great affinity for daily newspaper journalism, in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Diane DiPiero, Copywriter</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384258</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane DiPiero, Copywriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; it is *journalists* who must be independent of their sources for journalism to function properly.&quot;

Well-said. I know many journalists who have remained true to their craft and who are relatively blameless for journalism&#039;s demise. Others, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; it is *journalists* who must be independent of their sources for journalism to function properly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well-said. I know many journalists who have remained true to their craft and who are relatively blameless for journalism&#8217;s demise. Others, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Stewart, The Publicity Hound</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/10/08/it-is-our-fault/#comment-384255</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan Stewart, The Publicity Hound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked at newspapers for 22 years and got out 13 years ago, just in time. 

The death of newspapers is as much a fault of the journalists as it is the business side. I blame it on these four factors:

--Media bias. Many examples are listed above. Read &quot;Bias&quot; by Bernard Goldberg, the best book written on this topic.  

--An obsession by the business side to keep investors happy, instead of readers.

--Lousy customers service, from the circulation department to the newsroom.

--An inability to embrace change and alter the business model. On the advertising side, newspapers have let Craigslist take away millions of dollars in classified ad revenue. On the news side, the Oct. 13 issue of PR Week says &quot;The social media craze has exploded so rapidly that many press outlets are still developing their strategies for covering it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked at newspapers for 22 years and got out 13 years ago, just in time. </p>
<p>The death of newspapers is as much a fault of the journalists as it is the business side. I blame it on these four factors:</p>
<p>&#8211;Media bias. Many examples are listed above. Read &#8220;Bias&#8221; by Bernard Goldberg, the best book written on this topic.  </p>
<p>&#8211;An obsession by the business side to keep investors happy, instead of readers.</p>
<p>&#8211;Lousy customers service, from the circulation department to the newsroom.</p>
<p>&#8211;An inability to embrace change and alter the business model. On the advertising side, newspapers have let Craigslist take away millions of dollars in classified ad revenue. On the news side, the Oct. 13 issue of PR Week says &#8220;The social media craze has exploded so rapidly that many press outlets are still developing their strategies for covering it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s Up With Me? &#171; Cindy&#8217;s Take on Tech</title>
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		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s Up With Me? &#171; Cindy&#8217;s Take on Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in. And, a couple of articles on who to blame and why for the downturn in the news business: Buzz Machine and The Digital [...]</description>
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