Comments on: Hacked U http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/11/25/hacked-u/ by Jeff Jarvis Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:48:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By:   links for 2008-12-01 — contentious.com http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/11/25/hacked-u/#comment-386378   links for 2008-12-01 — contentious.com Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:02:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3886#comment-386378 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Hacked U "I was talking with Bob Kerrey of the New School as he praised the quality of the lectures available online from MIT. I suggested that the aggregated university could be built around a distributed version of the Cambridge system with lecturers (the guys from MIT) and tutors (local teachers who guided students personally). Thus s learn from the world’s best while also getting the attention they need." (tags: tidbits+fodder education presentations social+media sharing change) [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Hacked U "I was talking with Bob Kerrey of the New School as he praised the quality of the lectures available online from MIT. I suggested that the aggregated university could be built around a distributed version of the Cambridge system with lecturers (the guys from MIT) and tutors (local teachers who guided students personally). Thus s learn from the world’s best while also getting the attention they need." (tags: tidbits+fodder education presentations social+media sharing change) [...]

]]> By: Peripheral education - Daniel Bachhuber http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/11/25/hacked-u/#comment-386177 Peripheral education - Daniel Bachhuber Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:27:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3886#comment-386177 [...] nearly in full by @gmarkham, and the second was a recent post from Jeff Jarvis about hacked, organic education. As he argues, we’re moving from an analog world to a networked, digital one. The analog [...] [...] nearly in full by @gmarkham, and the second was a recent post from Jeff Jarvis about hacked, organic education. As he argues, we’re moving from an analog world to a networked, digital one. The analog [...]

]]> By: Shawn Levasseur http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/11/25/hacked-u/#comment-386164 Shawn Levasseur Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:43:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3886#comment-386164 If anyone missed the link at Instapundit here's an interesting related article. It's mostly about how colleges spend money and set priorities, but in the middle is an interesting example of educational re-invention via the "Virginia Tech Math Emporium". http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2008/0811.carey.html If anyone missed the link at Instapundit here’s an interesting related article.

It’s mostly about how colleges spend money and set priorities, but in the middle is an interesting example of educational re-invention via the “Virginia Tech Math Emporium”.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2008/0811.carey.html

]]> By: The Changing Tide of Educating Real Estate Agents : The Real Estate Bloggers http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/11/25/hacked-u/#comment-386144 The Changing Tide of Educating Real Estate Agents : The Real Estate Bloggers Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:02:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3886#comment-386144 [...] Hattip Jeff Jarvis [...] [...] Hattip Jeff Jarvis [...]

]]> By: Shawn Levasseur http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/11/25/hacked-u/#comment-386136 Shawn Levasseur Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:22:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3886#comment-386136 Maybe the focus is more on teaching because the real focus should be on learning. Teaching is merely the means to that end. Everything else is just a measuring stick. Too many discussions about education these days focuses on the stick, and not actual learning. Learning need not be for the sake of a diploma. Without the diploma as a goal, grades are less of a concern, and in turn testing isn't as much of a concern. Learning is a goal unto itself. The GED is not an appropriate metaphor for what's being discussed in the presentation, in fact that's more the "E-learning" model that's critiqued as taking the same educational model and putting it online. What's being discussed is the creation of new models for education altogether, and not an alternate form of delivering the same content. The GED is all about bypassing learning (or bypassing an experience where you will not or cannot learn) for showing you can measure up to a stick. Hell, I probably could have passed a GED exam before I was in high school. -- On a separate note, the presentation got me to thinking about how the teacher's role would change in a more connected, personal, and open educational system. I think teachers will find themselves in the same role as reporters and editors do in journalism. Teachers will offer up information, discussions, and such to the world via blogs, wikis, videos, and other means much as reporters would as Jeff has suggested. Teachers will also act as "DJ's" (to repeat a metaphor presented ealier) to find and assemble this information and guide students through it. Much like editors will in Jeff's model of the future of journalism. Maybe the focus is more on teaching because the real focus should be on learning. Teaching is merely the means to that end.

Everything else is just a measuring stick. Too many discussions about education these days focuses on the stick, and not actual learning.

Learning need not be for the sake of a diploma. Without the diploma as a goal, grades are less of a concern, and in turn testing isn’t as much of a concern. Learning is a goal unto itself.

The GED is not an appropriate metaphor for what’s being discussed in the presentation, in fact that’s more the “E-learning” model that’s critiqued as taking the same educational model and putting it online.

What’s being discussed is the creation of new models for education altogether, and not an alternate form of delivering the same content.

The GED is all about bypassing learning (or bypassing an experience where you will not or cannot learn) for showing you can measure up to a stick. Hell, I probably could have passed a GED exam before I was in high school.

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On a separate note, the presentation got me to thinking about how the teacher’s role would change in a more connected, personal, and open educational system. I think teachers will find themselves in the same role as reporters and editors do in journalism.

Teachers will offer up information, discussions, and such to the world via blogs, wikis, videos, and other means much as reporters would as Jeff has suggested. Teachers will also act as “DJ’s” (to repeat a metaphor presented ealier) to find and assemble this information and guide students through it. Much like editors will in Jeff’s model of the future of journalism.

]]> By: Bob Wyman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/11/25/hacked-u/#comment-386125 Bob Wyman Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:02:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=3886#comment-386125 Wiley's presentation seems to focus on only one aspect of schools: Teaching. He doesn't address testing, research or socialization... Perhaps most important is the "testing" problem -- i.e. certifying that someone has achieved a particular level of academic achievement: Home schooling for High School students is viable because we have broadly accepted standardized tests at that level. In lieu of a diploma, in the US, you can pass the GED or some other High School Equivalency Exam. However, we don't have broadly accepted standardized tests that are accepted as substitutes for post-secondary education -- other than those that test narrow "vocational" skills. Post-secondary school online learning can't really take off until we have broadly accepted standardized "University Equivalency Tests." Online teaching is only part of the solution... bob wyman Wiley’s presentation seems to focus on only one aspect of schools: Teaching. He doesn’t address testing, research or socialization… Perhaps most important is the “testing” problem — i.e. certifying that someone has achieved a particular level of academic achievement:

Home schooling for High School students is viable because we have broadly accepted standardized tests at that level. In lieu of a diploma, in the US, you can pass the GED or some other High School Equivalency Exam. However, we don’t have broadly accepted standardized tests that are accepted as substitutes for post-secondary education — other than those that test narrow “vocational” skills.

Post-secondary school online learning can’t really take off until we have broadly accepted standardized “University Equivalency Tests.” Online teaching is only part of the solution…

bob wyman

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