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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Memo to Media: &#8220;Stop Resisting!&#8221; &#124; brianfrank.ca</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-403157</link>
		<dc:creator>Memo to Media: &#8220;Stop Resisting!&#8221; &#124; brianfrank.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis and others have been arguing for a while that professional news organizations need to train citizen journalists and facilitate them (us) in ways in order to improve the quality of information coming out as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Teaching journalists</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-388587</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Teaching journalists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Next step: I hope the newsroom journalists can&#8217;t catch themselves from teaching others in the community to expand the network of journalism locally: the newsroom as classroom. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Il ReteGiornale - la Tua Voce in Rete&#187; Libertà d'informazione &#187; Le redazioni come ‘aule’ aperte</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-388578</link>
		<dc:creator>Il ReteGiornale - la Tua Voce in Rete&#187; Libertà d'informazione &#187; Le redazioni come ‘aule’ aperte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] un post sul suo blog, BuzzMachine, Jarvis spiega che l&#8217; iniziativa &#232; stata chiamata &#8220;The Oakland Press Institute [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LSDI : Le redazioni come ‘aule’ aperte</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-388571</link>
		<dc:creator>LSDI : Le redazioni come ‘aule’ aperte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 08:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] un post sul suo blog, BuzzMachine, Jarvis spiega che l&#8217; iniziativa &#232; stata chiamata &#8220;The Oakland Press Institute [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Elvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-388461</link>
		<dc:creator>Elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd that you write that journalists &quot;ply our trade...keep it secret as a priesthood.&quot; 
Journalists have no secret about the trade; it&#039;s called COLLEGE educated! I applaud those who want to learn more about reporting, but I find it disturbing that people think journalists have something to hide. Journalists are trained in ethics, objectivity and the style of accuracy. They want to tell the truth.
The newspaper provides public forum, in letters to the editor and online commenting.
Newspapers aren&#039;t starting these initiatives to help people, they are doing so to save money! There is not altruistic goal, it is all about the bottom line. 
Perhaps some should be concerned that Citizen Journalists have some ulterior motive about someone or something they do not like within their communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd that you write that journalists &#8220;ply our trade&#8230;keep it secret as a priesthood.&#8221;<br />
Journalists have no secret about the trade; it&#8217;s called COLLEGE educated! I applaud those who want to learn more about reporting, but I find it disturbing that people think journalists have something to hide. Journalists are trained in ethics, objectivity and the style of accuracy. They want to tell the truth.<br />
The newspaper provides public forum, in letters to the editor and online commenting.<br />
Newspapers aren&#8217;t starting these initiatives to help people, they are doing so to save money! There is not altruistic goal, it is all about the bottom line.<br />
Perhaps some should be concerned that Citizen Journalists have some ulterior motive about someone or something they do not like within their communities.</p>
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		<title>By: An Institute of Citizen Journalism &#124; Gauravonomics Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-387758</link>
		<dc:creator>An Institute of Citizen Journalism &#124; Gauravonomics Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Jeff Jarvis says, these classes can become important two way learning opportunities where journalists teach [...]</description>
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		<title>By: smcnally</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-387515</link>
		<dc:creator>smcnally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=78&amp;aid=152471&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Poynter&#039;s pointers&lt;/a&gt;, Oakland&#039;s &quot;Institute&quot; should benefit Pros and &quot;Amateurs&quot; as well as all of us who were formerly the audience. 

May this be the start of many more to come -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like <a href="http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=78&amp;aid=152471" rel="nofollow">Poynter&#8217;s pointers</a>, Oakland&#8217;s &#8220;Institute&#8221; should benefit Pros and &#8220;Amateurs&#8221; as well as all of us who were formerly the audience. </p>
<p>May this be the start of many more to come -</p>
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		<title>By: The Oakland Press Institute for Citizen Journalism &#124; PSFK</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-387499</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oakland Press Institute for Citizen Journalism &#124; PSFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine: &#8220;The newsroom as classroom opens&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Need a job? Twitter's hiring &#124; socialmediainfluence.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-387477</link>
		<dc:creator>Need a job? Twitter's hiring &#124; socialmediainfluence.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis is pleased as punch: &#8220;Beautiful. The best part is that the instruction will be done by members of the paper’s staff. Now I know some bloggers might say, &#8216;We don’t need your instruction, press people, you need ours.&#8217; And the second half of that is true - everyone in this classroom can learn. But so long as the instruction is offered in the spirit of generosity - &#8216;Here’s what we know and how we ply our trade and we will no longer keep it secret as a priesthood but will share it openly&#8217; - then everyone wins. The public can learn those tricks of their trade. The journalists build a new relationship of mutual trust with the public. The news organization expands journalism into the community - as the Oakland Press’ announcement eloquenty argues in what amounts to a white paper on the virtues of citizen journalism.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis is pleased as punch: &#8220;Beautiful. The best part is that the instruction will be done by members of the paper’s staff. Now I know some bloggers might say, &#8216;We don’t need your instruction, press people, you need ours.&#8217; And the second half of that is true &#8211; everyone in this classroom can learn. But so long as the instruction is offered in the spirit of generosity &#8211; &#8216;Here’s what we know and how we ply our trade and we will no longer keep it secret as a priesthood but will share it openly&#8217; &#8211; then everyone wins. The public can learn those tricks of their trade. The journalists build a new relationship of mutual trust with the public. The news organization expands journalism into the community &#8211; as the Oakland Press’ announcement eloquenty argues in what amounts to a white paper on the virtues of citizen journalism.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jardenberg kommenterar - 2008-12-17 &#124; jardenberg unedited</title>
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		<dc:creator>jardenberg kommenterar - 2008-12-17 &#124; jardenberg unedited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-12-16 &#124; The Zone Read</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-387426</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-12-16 &#124; The Zone Read</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The newsroom as classroom opens The Oakland Press announced it is opening a classroom for citizen journalists. The Oakland Press Institute for Citizen Journalism is “&#8230;for readers to help tell stories better, quicker and more completely.” Interesting idea. (tags: msm) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The newsroom as classroom opens The Oakland Press announced it is opening a classroom for citizen journalists. The Oakland Press Institute for Citizen Journalism is “&#8230;for readers to help tell stories better, quicker and more completely.” Interesting idea. (tags: msm) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: steve garfield</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-387423</link>
		<dc:creator>steve garfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Oakland Press. We got a taste of this in Boston, when BostonNOW worked with bloggers.  

Which media outlet in Boston will jump on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Oakland Press. We got a taste of this in Boston, when BostonNOW worked with bloggers.  </p>
<p>Which media outlet in Boston will jump on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Training Citizen Journalists in Oakland &#171; J-School: Educating Independent Journalists</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-387419</link>
		<dc:creator>Training Citizen Journalists in Oakland &#171; J-School: Educating Independent Journalists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] * The Newsroom as Classroom Opens (Buzzmachine) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tish Grier</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/16/the-newsroom-as-classroom-opens/#comment-387409</link>
		<dc:creator>Tish Grier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff, Jeff...and, as you say, as long as it is done in a spirit of generosity, then something good can come of it.  Just as long as it doesn&#039;t devolve into a training ground for stringers...

As far as bloggers participating--honestly, there may be some in the community who used to work for the press (lots more of that these days), who won&#039;t need the program, and there will be other bloggers who believe what they do isn&#039;t journalism at all and won&#039;t feel a need to participate either. Blogging--esp. for business-has evolved in its own right, with programs conducted by leaders in the business community on how to use the medium.  So, whomever ends up participating in this particular program will be the right people for the program.  Best of luck on their success...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff, Jeff&#8230;and, as you say, as long as it is done in a spirit of generosity, then something good can come of it.  Just as long as it doesn&#8217;t devolve into a training ground for stringers&#8230;</p>
<p>As far as bloggers participating&#8211;honestly, there may be some in the community who used to work for the press (lots more of that these days), who won&#8217;t need the program, and there will be other bloggers who believe what they do isn&#8217;t journalism at all and won&#8217;t feel a need to participate either. Blogging&#8211;esp. for business-has evolved in its own right, with programs conducted by leaders in the business community on how to use the medium.  So, whomever ends up participating in this particular program will be the right people for the program.  Best of luck on their success&#8230;</p>
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