Comments on: Attention + Influence do not equal Authority

By: Influenceur, autorité, passeur de culture ou l’un de ces singes exubérants | Mario tout de go

Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:45:30 +0000

[...] réfléchissent à ces questions. Des gens comme Jeff Jarvis, entre autres… Dans son billet «Attention + Influence do not equal Authority», Monsieur «BuzzMachine» cite John Naughton à propos du concept d’autorité sur Internet [...]

By: The 16 Second Attention Span of An Entrepreneur - Still With Me?

The 16 Second Attention Span of An Entrepreneur - Still With Me? — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:50:15 +0000

[...] And finally how Twitter and Attention fit together [...]

By: Big doesn’t necessarily mean authoritative |

Big doesn’t necessarily mean authoritative | — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:30:19 +0000

[...] couple of interesting points in Jeff Jarvis’s post about what gives reporters, bloggers etc authority. He was writing in reference to a conversation about how to filter for authoritative voices on [...]

By: Journalists as experts | Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh

Journalists as experts | Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:44:57 +0000

[...] lots of Twitter followers makes you important (rilly – the things people get heated up about) Jeff Jarvis makes some broader, more important points. And, unusually, I find myself disagreeing with [...]

By: links for 2008-12-29 « Brain Music –Gadgets, Neuroscience, Music, Social Media, Health 2.0 & More

Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:14:33 +0000

[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Attention + Influence do not equal Authority (tags: web2.0 twitter) [...]

By: Hypercrit – Online authority debate centering on Twitter

Hypercrit – Online authority debate centering on Twitter — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:31:11 +0000

[...] a lot of followers on Twitter doesn’t make you an authority. That’s the message from Jeff Jarvis and John Naughton, who both posted to their blogs recently about whether Twitter should rank tweets [...]

By: Twitter: disquisizioni su autorità, influenza e popolarità - Stalkk.ed

Twitter: disquisizioni su autorità, influenza e popolarità - Stalkk.ed — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:24:43 +0000

[...] C’è stato chi ha sollevato forti dubbi circa la correlazione tra autorità od aut…. C’è stato anche chi ha precisato che influente non è necessariamente sinonimo di popolare, e che, a sua volta, popolare non significa grande esperto di qualcosa. C’è stato poi chi ha sottolineato che la popolarità non è un parametro da prendere in esame per stabilire la "bontà" di un tweet, ed ha indicato altri parametri più appropriati. C’è stato inoltre chi ha parlato di ricerca sociale in antitesi a qualsiasi ricerca basata su parametri quali autorità et similia. C’è stato infine chi ha liquidato la faccenda parlando di una semplice aggiuntiva opzione di ricerca a disposizione degli utenti di Twitter. [...]

By: Tweet tweet search | Internet Marketing Blog

Tweet tweet search | Internet Marketing Blog — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:40:10 +0000

[...] designated by number of followers. Jeff Jarvis gave a pretty reasoned response over at Buzzmachine. Meanwhile, no sooner did Loic ask for a way of searching by authority, than Jon Wheatley produced [...]

By: Debunkr

Debunkr — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:00:11 +0000

It’s interesting to me that this conversation seems to be connecting political theory with communications theory. We’re crossing over from how a message gets disseminated through relationships to the power of the connections in that dissemination. A lot of this post is really talking about the influential power of relationships. I would argue that political parties demonstrate strong bond connections whereas following Scoble because you’re a newbie is more like a weak bond connection. Should fascinating to watch where this goes.

By: Chris Anderson

Chris Anderson — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:58:28 +0000

Stephanie– in a world of user-generated content, infinite choice, and relative freedom to “consume” whatever information you want, doesn’t authority matter more, not less?

By: Mike G

Mike G — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:53:15 +0000

The number of tweets is an objective measure of quality.

Just as the movie on YouTube with the most views is the greatest movie ever made…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ25-glGRzI

By: Agitationist

Agitationist — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:17:37 +0000

This might be re-purposed as an argument in favor of “authority”:
http://agitationist.com/1500-more-reasons-twitter-must-die
The pipes are getting pertty clogged out there.

By: FutureGov » Useful links » links for 2008-12-29

FutureGov » Useful links » links for 2008-12-29 — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:00:41 +0000

[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Attention + Influence do not equal Authority "Reporters don’t have authority. They have attention and possibly influence because they have so many followers. But that doesn’t give them authority." Fascinating and prescient discussion given the increasingly deep and wide use of social media and related increased desire to seek out filters to grade relative importance given this increasing noise. (tags: twitter social media microblogging technology network search clayshirky rating authority jeffjarvis) [...]

By: AndrewK

AndrewK — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:36:05 +0000

on the right spot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=763vmCrRBDg

By: Czy mo?na mierzy? autorytet poprzez ilo?ci (obserwuj?cych lub czytaj?cych)?

Czy mo?na mierzy? autorytet poprzez ilo?ci (obserwuj?cych lub czytaj?cych)? — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:25:38 +0000

[...] zagranicznej blogosferze trwa w?a?nie dyskusja o tym, czym tak naprawd? jest autorytet i czy liczba ?ledz?cych nasze poczynania osób na twitterze czy friendfeed jest jego [...]

By: Stephane Dangel

Stephane Dangel — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:50:16 +0000

The word “Authority” really bothers me. It smells like old style of management : the one with “command and control” rule, “command – execution”.
We all know such conceptions belong to the past (in real life, even if some corporations still stick to it).
In a world filled with user generated content, decentralization, where leaders aren’t any longer executives but maybe low management standouts, unofficial but really effective leaders, in such a world, authority hasn’t any longer the sense it used to have.
Related to the topic, the number of followers isn’t of great help, the reliability of the followers (their leadership) is of. Metrics should track and translate this specific parameter.
This is “in line” with Jeff Jarvis’ conceptions of the future of the news industry and the future of marketing, where qualified user generated content will certainly be key.

By: Czy mo?na mierzy? autorytet poprzez ilo?ci (obserwuj?cych lub czytaj?cych)?

Czy mo?na mierzy? autorytet poprzez ilo?ci (obserwuj?cych lub czytaj?cych)? — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:19:25 +0000

[...] zagranicznej blogosferze trwa w?a?nie dyskusja o tym, czym tak naprawd? jest autorytet i czy liczba ?ledz?cych nasze poczynania osób na twitterze czy [...]

By: Czy mo?na mierzy? autorytet poprzez ilo?ci (obserwuj?cych lub czytaj?cych)? | Tvn24h

Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:55:52 +0000

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By: On Twitter, Followers Aren’t Really Friends

On Twitter, Followers Aren’t Really Friends — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:00:54 +0000

[...] the blogosphere, this time over what, exactly, determines the authority of a tweet on Twitter. Some argued that the number of followers is the best yardstick with which to measure how important a tweet was, [...]

By: Frank

Frank — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:21:28 +0000

The Social networking websites or the Business Social networking blogs are increasingly in need of new tool to keep the great time on the web!
It Just about time !

By: Ben Barren - Confessions of a Mad Man » a new twitter app a day keeps the wrestler not away.

Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:56:15 +0000

[...] french-silicon valley debate about the feature (twitter search by authority/influence – read Jeff Jarvis attention + influence does not equal authority) necessity and ideal manifestation. There is definitely something here if influentials can be [...]

By: My kids use to have make believe friends too

My kids use to have make believe friends too — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:50:45 +0000

[...] the whole mess. However it wasn’t his post either that sparked this little thought. That honour belongs to an excellent comment by Max Kalehoff who cites a study done by Daniel Romero, a scientist at the Center for Applied Mathematics at [...]

By: Luke O'Connor

Luke O'Connor — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:33:56 +0000

@Benedikt you are right that I used scale-free in the wrong technical sense. I should of said something like infintely scalable meaning that the size and capacity of the twitter service can is assumed to grow without limits. Even within this framework the structure of the connection can follow a scale-free topology of preferential communication. The question here is whether that locality in that preferential structure, indicative of followers, is a proxy for authority – and I think not.

By: Authority, Recency and Relevance are Equally Important in Social Search | Gauravonomics Blog

Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:14:55 +0000

[...] Sarah Lacy disagrees with Loic Le Mur. Dave Winer, Jeff Jarvis and Sam Harrelson believe that relevance (defined by the distance in the social graph) is more [...]

By: Luke O'Connor

Luke O'Connor — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:59:12 +0000

@Benedikt Yes I agree that we need a network metric, a la PageRank, rather than the individual follower metric- I am sure that the HP people mentioned above can do the calculation if they have the data.