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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Printed Matters</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-389651</link>
		<dc:creator>Printed Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some say these actions foreshadow a wholesale sloughing-off of the newspaper industry’s dead-tree skin. Changing demographics, the Internet, a global recession and crippling debt have conspired to set off a sea change in the way news is delivered. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some say these actions foreshadow a wholesale sloughing-off of the newspaper industry’s dead-tree skin. Changing demographics, the Internet, a global recession and crippling debt have conspired to set off a sea change in the way news is delivered. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bagno di sangue nel 2009 per i giornali di carta &#171; OnestaMente</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-389048</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagno di sangue nel 2009 per i giornali di carta &#171; OnestaMente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] più economico modello di business che fa perno sul Web: negli States un numero sempre maggiore di quotidiani locali e di autorevoli fonti di notizie invitano la propria readership a rivolgersi alla rete, rinunciando [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] più economico modello di business che fa perno sul Web: negli States un numero sempre maggiore di quotidiani locali e di autorevoli fonti di notizie invitano la propria readership a rivolgersi alla rete, rinunciando [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Feed &#187; Kansas City Kansan to Go Online Only</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388645</link>
		<dc:creator>The Feed &#187; Kansas City Kansan to Go Online Only</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis offers a prediction: Bit by bit, with bigger and bigger papers, we’ll see more and more of this in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Le blog de Mateusz Kukulka &#187; Du réel à la vie virtuelle</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388605</link>
		<dc:creator>Le blog de Mateusz Kukulka &#187; Du réel à la vie virtuelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hier encore, un journal américain annonçait la fermeture de ses rotatives pour passer uniquement à la version online du quotidien. (&#8220;The Kansan City Kansan - the only paper covering Wyandotte County and Kansas City, Kansas - is turning off its presses and going online&#8221;, explique Jeff Jarvis sur son blog). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hier encore, un journal américain annonçait la fermeture de ses rotatives pour passer uniquement à la version online du quotidien. (&#8220;The Kansan City Kansan &#8211; the only paper covering Wyandotte County and Kansas City, Kansas &#8211; is turning off its presses and going online&#8221;, explique Jeff Jarvis sur son blog). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Mercer</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388603</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Mercer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hardcopy newspapers are doomed, in general. And what most of them are doing about it, and most of the newspaper groups, amount to strategies designed to make the Titanic sink more slowly, having hit the iceberg. There need to be entirely new strategies--particularly strategies that take advantage of the laptops, internet appliances, cell phones, etc. They need to look at a whole new model--and they just don&#039;t begin to get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hardcopy newspapers are doomed, in general. And what most of them are doing about it, and most of the newspaper groups, amount to strategies designed to make the Titanic sink more slowly, having hit the iceberg. There need to be entirely new strategies&#8211;particularly strategies that take advantage of the laptops, internet appliances, cell phones, etc. They need to look at a whole new model&#8211;and they just don&#8217;t begin to get it.</p>
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		<title>By: invitedmedia</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388601</link>
		<dc:creator>invitedmedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to take exception to the commenter above about &quot;detroit being a dead market&quot;- just drove past the monsterous detroit free press/detroit news printing plant in sterling heights, MI. it&#039;s hard to imagine how a huge operation like that can compete/sustain when someone can publish from a laptop/cell phone/blackberry/etc. located in someplace as simple as a panera bread (here!).

anyways, right down the pothole-filled road from the det. free press/news plant sits a similarly monsterous ford factory with nearly 1000 brand new vehicles just sitting there gathering snow. 

correlation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to take exception to the commenter above about &#8220;detroit being a dead market&#8221;- just drove past the monsterous detroit free press/detroit news printing plant in sterling heights, MI. it&#8217;s hard to imagine how a huge operation like that can compete/sustain when someone can publish from a laptop/cell phone/blackberry/etc. located in someplace as simple as a panera bread (here!).</p>
<p>anyways, right down the pothole-filled road from the det. free press/news plant sits a similarly monsterous ford factory with nearly 1000 brand new vehicles just sitting there gathering snow. </p>
<p>correlation?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Mercer</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388590</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Mercer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that we will see more and more of this. I just do not believe that there is much of a future in hardcopy newspapers. This strategy may actually work in cases like this--where they seem to be the only local news service. I personally think that some of the bigger chains could develop innovative ways of syndicating some online content--where they have several papers in the same general market that could include regional news, while still maintaining a local news capability. It could also include syndicating various kind of generally interesting subject matter that is neither regional nor local on their sites. This could be an economic way of supporting the kind of web content that brings in users without sacrificing local content. Based  on personal experience I would say that, with some of these groups, this will happen when pigs start to fly. They just do not seem to realize that the three most important things about a web presence are content, content . . . and content. Maintaining the jobs of a bunch of empty suits is not going to feed the bulldog. They need web-savvy innovators. I think that the time to move in this direction may have already passed, particularly in dense metropolitan areas where there is a lot of competition and other powerful web presences. It may work, however, in areas where the group truly owns the market. I will not hold my breath on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that we will see more and more of this. I just do not believe that there is much of a future in hardcopy newspapers. This strategy may actually work in cases like this&#8211;where they seem to be the only local news service. I personally think that some of the bigger chains could develop innovative ways of syndicating some online content&#8211;where they have several papers in the same general market that could include regional news, while still maintaining a local news capability. It could also include syndicating various kind of generally interesting subject matter that is neither regional nor local on their sites. This could be an economic way of supporting the kind of web content that brings in users without sacrificing local content. Based  on personal experience I would say that, with some of these groups, this will happen when pigs start to fly. They just do not seem to realize that the three most important things about a web presence are content, content . . . and content. Maintaining the jobs of a bunch of empty suits is not going to feed the bulldog. They need web-savvy innovators. I think that the time to move in this direction may have already passed, particularly in dense metropolitan areas where there is a lot of competition and other powerful web presences. It may work, however, in areas where the group truly owns the market. I will not hold my breath on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388547</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan,

See also my posts about the LA Times lately: It is important to imagine sustainable digital journalistic enterprises. 

Second, you list all national brands. The local market is in worse trouble and in some ways is more important to figure out (national brands have more strength). 

so I&quot;m not ready to just write-off these local efforts (even if they come from link-hating Gatehouse). We need to see them transform into the new century at last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan,</p>
<p>See also my posts about the LA Times lately: It is important to imagine sustainable digital journalistic enterprises. </p>
<p>Second, you list all national brands. The local market is in worse trouble and in some ways is more important to figure out (national brands have more strength). </p>
<p>so I&#8221;m not ready to just write-off these local efforts (even if they come from link-hating Gatehouse). We need to see them transform into the new century at last.</p>
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		<title>By: DEAD BODIES IN DEAD MARKETS at WHAT&#8217;S NEXT: INNOVATIONS IN NEWSPAPERS</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388544</link>
		<dc:creator>DEAD BODIES IN DEAD MARKETS at WHAT&#8217;S NEXT: INNOVATIONS IN NEWSPAPERS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comment to a recent Jeff&#8217;s post: These are dead bodies in dead [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Juan Giner</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388543</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Giner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

These are dead bodies in dead markets.

Like the papers in Detroit.

So, going on line will no solve their problems.

If you were not able to make money in print, how you are going to survive on line?

If you didn&#039;t get enough readers and advertisers how are you going to get them on line?

Only print newspapers making money, having readers and advertisers, and investing online will survive.

If you were not innovative in print, how I can believe that you will be on line?

These newspaper are not casualties of Internet, but print failures.

These are not the papers of the future.

They are the losers.

So, let&#039;s focus in what The Guardian or The Daily Telegrah do, La Vanguardia or El Mundo do, Politiken or Aftenposten do, O Globo or Zero Hora do, The New York Times or USA Today do, 20 Minutos or Il Corriere della Sera do, Dagens Nyheter or Berlingske Tidende do, La Nación or La Tercera do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>These are dead bodies in dead markets.</p>
<p>Like the papers in Detroit.</p>
<p>So, going on line will no solve their problems.</p>
<p>If you were not able to make money in print, how you are going to survive on line?</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t get enough readers and advertisers how are you going to get them on line?</p>
<p>Only print newspapers making money, having readers and advertisers, and investing online will survive.</p>
<p>If you were not innovative in print, how I can believe that you will be on line?</p>
<p>These newspaper are not casualties of Internet, but print failures.</p>
<p>These are not the papers of the future.</p>
<p>They are the losers.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s focus in what The Guardian or The Daily Telegrah do, La Vanguardia or El Mundo do, Politiken or Aftenposten do, O Globo or Zero Hora do, The New York Times or USA Today do, 20 Minutos or Il Corriere della Sera do, Dagens Nyheter or Berlingske Tidende do, La Nación or La Tercera do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Boring Defined: Washington Post Online &#124; David Henderson - author, journalist</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/12/31/presses-stopped/#comment-388540</link>
		<dc:creator>Boring Defined: Washington Post Online &#124; David Henderson - author, journalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] printing a traditional paper version within the next couple of years. On New Year&#8217;s Eve, another paper stopped printing. And, I cannot help but believe that some newspapers are their own worst enemy. Let me [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] printing a traditional paper version within the next couple of years. On New Year&#8217;s Eve, another paper stopped printing. And, I cannot help but believe that some newspapers are their own worst enemy. Let me [...]</p>
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