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		<title>By: &#187; An iTunes for news? Try Spotify for beyond-news. &#124; David Bauer. Journalist.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-398206</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; An iTunes for news? Try Spotify for beyond-news. &#124; David Bauer. Journalist.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with his own ideas. And he&#8217;s pretty serious about being paid for his writing, whose essence, in his words, &#8220;can spread without having to hear him sing the tune&#8221;. So if I tweet &#8220;Everyone [...]</description>
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		<title>By: New York Times weighs charging users for access to NYTimes.com &#124; csmonitor.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-397837</link>
		<dc:creator>New York Times weighs charging users for access to NYTimes.com &#124; csmonitor.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a pay wall – &#8220;free is a business model (and charging money costs money),&#8221; Jarvis has written. In a January column in the Guardian in January, Jarvis argued that traditional newsroom [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a pay wall – &#8220;free is a business model (and charging money costs money),&#8221; Jarvis has written. In a January column in the Guardian in January, Jarvis argued that traditional newsroom [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What would Jeff Jarvis do?&#160;&#124;&#160;The Evolving Newsroom</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-391458</link>
		<dc:creator>What would Jeff Jarvis do?&#160;&#124;&#160;The Evolving Newsroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] why anyone would pay for the news or an opinion column, Jeff observed here: “A news story or an opinion, like a song, is unique—that you can’t get it somewhere else and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The case for freemium services to support professional journalism at Klintron&#8217;s Brain</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-390836</link>
		<dc:creator>The case for freemium services to support professional journalism at Klintron&#8217;s Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Penny for his thoughts « BuzzMachine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Printed Matters &#187; Paywall madness: Dec. 2008 - Feb. 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-390826</link>
		<dc:creator>Printed Matters &#187; Paywall madness: Dec. 2008 - Feb. 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 12, 2009 - 7:49 am Penny for his thoughts by Jeff [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Newsosaur roars at the BuzzMachine &#171; Virtualjournalist</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-390744</link>
		<dc:creator>Newsosaur roars at the BuzzMachine &#171; Virtualjournalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] online news content apart from directly charging for it. Recently on his BuzzMachine blog, he  ridiculed David Carr&#8217;s iTunes for newspapers proposal, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LSDI : E ora proviamo con i micropagamenti</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-390612</link>
		<dc:creator>LSDI : E ora proviamo con i micropagamenti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google do&#8221; (vedi l&#8217;ultimo articolo di Jean-Louis Gass&#233;e sul Monday Note).&#160;L&#8217; idea di Jarvis si basa sull&#8217; ultimo, fallimentare tentativo del New York Times di far pagare i propri [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google do&rdquo; (vedi l&rsquo;ultimo articolo di Jean-Louis Gass&eacute;e sul Monday Note).&nbsp;L&rsquo; idea di Jarvis si basa sull&rsquo; ultimo, fallimentare tentativo del New York Times di far pagare i propri [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LSDI : E ora proviamo con i micropagamenti</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-390611</link>
		<dc:creator>LSDI : E ora proviamo con i micropagamenti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google do&#8221; (vedi l&#8217;ultimo articolo di Jean-Louis Gass&#233;e sul Monday Note).&#160;L&#8217; idea di Jarvis si basa sull&#8217; ultimo, fallimentare tentativo del New York Times di far pagare i propri [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google do&rdquo; (vedi l&rsquo;ultimo articolo di Jean-Louis Gass&eacute;e sul Monday Note).&nbsp;L&rsquo; idea di Jarvis si basa sull&rsquo; ultimo, fallimentare tentativo del New York Times di far pagare i propri [...]</p>
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		<title>By: And now, let&#8217;s try micropayments &#124; Monday Note</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-390350</link>
		<dc:creator>And now, let&#8217;s try micropayments &#124; Monday Note</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Would Google Do&#8221; (see Jean-Louis Gassée&#8217;s last week column In the Monday Note). Jarvis&#8217; case relies on the New York Times’ latest unsuccessful attempt to get readers to pay for content. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Would Google Do&#8221; (see Jean-Louis Gassée&#8217;s last week column In the Monday Note). Jarvis&#8217; case relies on the New York Times’ latest unsuccessful attempt to get readers to pay for content. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zeitguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeitguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jay, 
The caustic effect of many-to-many subsidized publication (web) is not on the news -- it is on the sociology of privelege-as-authority.  Twentieth century journalism built up then squandered this &quot;capital&quot; in the refraction of Watergate.  The point is, that if newspapers still supported the kind of civic moment that the reporters and columnists of the fifties represented, they wouldn&#039;t be in danger.  The question is, whether the blogoplasm will differentiate to produce real character, over time.

The web doesn&#039;t know what constitutes good writing.  The market doesn&#039;t know what constitutes sustainable mores of institutional behavior.  There is a resonance between the two phenomena, but not a causal link.  What do you think of this from the perspective of civic journalism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jay,<br />
The caustic effect of many-to-many subsidized publication (web) is not on the news &#8212; it is on the sociology of privelege-as-authority.  Twentieth century journalism built up then squandered this &#8220;capital&#8221; in the refraction of Watergate.  The point is, that if newspapers still supported the kind of civic moment that the reporters and columnists of the fifties represented, they wouldn&#8217;t be in danger.  The question is, whether the blogoplasm will differentiate to produce real character, over time.</p>
<p>The web doesn&#8217;t know what constitutes good writing.  The market doesn&#8217;t know what constitutes sustainable mores of institutional behavior.  There is a resonance between the two phenomena, but not a causal link.  What do you think of this from the perspective of civic journalism?</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389790</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opinions can be unique, and opinions can be sold. Whether unique at their crux or unique in their delivery, well-crafted news stories and opinion pieces can be sold like songs on iTunes. Only, it may be very difficult to do and make very little money. 

Truth is, I wouldn&#039;t give a penny&#039;s worth of piss for Jarvis&#039; opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opinions can be unique, and opinions can be sold. Whether unique at their crux or unique in their delivery, well-crafted news stories and opinion pieces can be sold like songs on iTunes. Only, it may be very difficult to do and make very little money. </p>
<p>Truth is, I wouldn&#8217;t give a penny&#8217;s worth of piss for Jarvis&#8217; opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Trotzendorff &#124; Berichterstatter &#124; Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389472</link>
		<dc:creator>Trotzendorff &#124; Berichterstatter &#124; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gute Reportagen oder zu komplizierte Artikel einmal ausgenommen. Und so schreibt Jeff Jarvis auf Buzzmachine auch, Informationen seien eben keine Kunst.&#160;Dass das Internet schon in wenigen Jahren die [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gute Reportagen oder zu komplizierte Artikel einmal ausgenommen. Und so schreibt Jeff Jarvis auf Buzzmachine auch, Informationen seien eben keine Kunst.&nbsp;Dass das Internet schon in wenigen Jahren die [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Saving the News: My Master Plan &#171; Lichen Frittata</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389448</link>
		<dc:creator>Saving the News: My Master Plan &#171; Lichen Frittata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Saving the News: My Master&#160;Plan Posted in Uncategorized by lichenfrittata on January 16th, 2009   David Carr’s idea of an “iTunes for the news” is both tremendously attractive to those desperately seeking a journalistic lifeboat and easily ripped to shreds by those who believe they’ve already found the answer. Ad revenue is all you need! fulminates Scott Rosenberg. Why would anyone want to pay for news coverage you can get anywhere for free? Jeff Jarvis follows up. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Saving the News: My Master&nbsp;Plan Posted in Uncategorized by lichenfrittata on January 16th, 2009   David Carr’s idea of an “iTunes for the news” is both tremendously attractive to those desperately seeking a journalistic lifeboat and easily ripped to shreds by those who believe they’ve already found the answer. Ad revenue is all you need! fulminates Scott Rosenberg. Why would anyone want to pay for news coverage you can get anywhere for free? Jeff Jarvis follows up. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389401</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why it is that courts don&#039;t allow hearsay? You&#039;re welcome to take Jeff&#039;s word for what Mr. Carr had to say but I for one am not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why it is that courts don&#8217;t allow hearsay? You&#8217;re welcome to take Jeff&#8217;s word for what Mr. Carr had to say but I for one am not.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389384</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie Galant,

Please click on the link that was in my previous comment. You may be surprised.

Are all journalists this lazy or clueless? Clicking on a link is not that technologically challenged, is it?

Here&#039;s another one: http://www.forewordmagazine.com/blogs/matters/2009/01/06/WHAT8217SNEXTFORBOOKPUBLISHING.aspx

Digital or dead tree, book publishing is growing and no one is crying woe is me. And in many parts of the world, paper book publishing is thriving even though internet access is just as widespread (China has more netizens then the population of the US or close to it) . Again, they&#039;ve products that people WANT to buy, either on paper or 01s, as opposed to what &quot;journalists&quot; have to offer. Keep snarking. That&#039;s all you have left. And it&#039;s worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie Galant,</p>
<p>Please click on the link that was in my previous comment. You may be surprised.</p>
<p>Are all journalists this lazy or clueless? Clicking on a link is not that technologically challenged, is it?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another one: <a href="http://www.forewordmagazine.com/blogs/matters/2009/01/06/WHAT8217SNEXTFORBOOKPUBLISHING.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.forewordmagazine.com/blogs/matters/2009/01/06/WHAT8217SNEXTFORBOOKPUBLISHING.aspx</a></p>
<p>Digital or dead tree, book publishing is growing and no one is crying woe is me. And in many parts of the world, paper book publishing is thriving even though internet access is just as widespread (China has more netizens then the population of the US or close to it) . Again, they&#8217;ve products that people WANT to buy, either on paper or 01s, as opposed to what &#8220;journalists&#8221; have to offer. Keep snarking. That&#8217;s all you have left. And it&#8217;s worthless.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389383</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; True, you could find other articles with a similar point of view. But they wouldn’t have Carr’s particular point of view, or his unique set of supports for his argument, or his writing style.

How much value does that &quot;particular&quot;, &quot;unique&quot;, or &quot;his&quot; have and to whom?

Unique does not imply valuable.  In fact, the relevant criteria isn&#039;t unique, but usefully unique.

Some opinions are usefully unique (or at least rare) and valuable; they can command a high price.  The problem that the NYT faces is that its opinions are not usefully unique.  So, even if they were valuable, they can&#039;t command a high price.

The terms &quot;supply&quot; and &quot;demand&quot; are relevant as is &quot;substitution&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; True, you could find other articles with a similar point of view. But they wouldn’t have Carr’s particular point of view, or his unique set of supports for his argument, or his writing style.</p>
<p>How much value does that &#8220;particular&#8221;, &#8220;unique&#8221;, or &#8220;his&#8221; have and to whom?</p>
<p>Unique does not imply valuable.  In fact, the relevant criteria isn&#8217;t unique, but usefully unique.</p>
<p>Some opinions are usefully unique (or at least rare) and valuable; they can command a high price.  The problem that the NYT faces is that its opinions are not usefully unique.  So, even if they were valuable, they can&#8217;t command a high price.</p>
<p>The terms &#8220;supply&#8221; and &#8220;demand&#8221; are relevant as is &#8220;substitution&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: The misguided search for an 'iTunes for news' &#124; socialmediainfluence.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389380</link>
		<dc:creator>The misguided search for an 'iTunes for news' &#124; socialmediainfluence.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a paid-for ad we do not and will not have an iTunes for news.&#8221;  Jeff Jarvis adds his 2c on Carr&#8217;s fallacious analogy between the music and news industries; Mathew Ingram says Carr&#8217;s column is a sign of just how desperate things have become at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a paid-for ad we do not and will not have an iTunes for news.&#8221;  Jeff Jarvis adds his 2c on Carr&#8217;s fallacious analogy between the music and news industries; Mathew Ingram says Carr&#8217;s column is a sign of just how desperate things have become at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Galant</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389375</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Galant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Book publishing is a growth industry? I think they&#039;d be happy to hear that. 

I&#039;m wondering when all books will be free on Kindle - as long as you accept the ads.

Can&#039;t wait to read WWGD. Where&#039;s my free ARC, Jeff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Book publishing is a growth industry? I think they&#8217;d be happy to hear that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering when all books will be free on Kindle &#8211; as long as you accept the ads.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to read WWGD. Where&#8217;s my free ARC, Jeff?</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Echola</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389373</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Echola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micheal, business doesn&#039;t work like that. It&#039;s all about money and growth. If you have two options, 1) make less money providing a great product or 2) make more money providing a great product, why would any sane business person choose option 1? Especially when option 2 means they can afford to go out on a limb more often.

A fast growing model like AllRecipes has implemented means they can, if they so choose, come into the content niche that Cooks Illustrated provides. AllRecipes could afford to sell ad free versions of the site for a lot cheaper than $35/year. 

That leaves Cooks on the defensive, which is not a position any business should be in on the Web right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micheal, business doesn&#8217;t work like that. It&#8217;s all about money and growth. If you have two options, 1) make less money providing a great product or 2) make more money providing a great product, why would any sane business person choose option 1? Especially when option 2 means they can afford to go out on a limb more often.</p>
<p>A fast growing model like AllRecipes has implemented means they can, if they so choose, come into the content niche that Cooks Illustrated provides. AllRecipes could afford to sell ad free versions of the site for a lot cheaper than $35/year. </p>
<p>That leaves Cooks on the defensive, which is not a position any business should be in on the Web right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Love</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389369</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itunes recently capitulated on DRM music.  Why?  Because Amazon began competing with them and sold only DRM-free music.  Consumers bought from Amazon because they did not want to hassle with DRM music from Itunes.  The same goes for video games, PC video games are DRM&#039;ing themselves into the ground and that is why console video games are ramping up.  Consumers don&#039;t want any hassles.  They want speed and ease of use.  If it is a hassle to access the news they will go elsewhere thanks to Google.

News will survive as a complimentary business that enhances the consumer experience.  The company that disseminates the news will need additional revenue streams to support gathering it.  Selling the news by itself is probably not practical for the long haul as a business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itunes recently capitulated on DRM music.  Why?  Because Amazon began competing with them and sold only DRM-free music.  Consumers bought from Amazon because they did not want to hassle with DRM music from Itunes.  The same goes for video games, PC video games are DRM&#8217;ing themselves into the ground and that is why console video games are ramping up.  Consumers don&#8217;t want any hassles.  They want speed and ease of use.  If it is a hassle to access the news they will go elsewhere thanks to Google.</p>
<p>News will survive as a complimentary business that enhances the consumer experience.  The company that disseminates the news will need additional revenue streams to support gathering it.  Selling the news by itself is probably not practical for the long haul as a business model.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Rudowski</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389368</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Rudowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, John. 

It&#039;s just plain irresponsible to reject a paid content model out-of-hand, and keep pushing journalists hellbent down the path of free. 

Most journalists will not earn enough from &quot;free&quot; to boost themselves into the ranks of the successfully self-employed, or even better into the ranks of successful entrepreneurs. Therefore, teaching them to focus solely on &quot;free&quot; merely serves to reinforce the plantation system that has kept many journalists as low-paid serfs in  newsrooms across America and the world.

Of course now the newspaper model is collapsing, so instead many of these journalists will find themselves on new online plantations.

The responsible thing to do is to teach journalists that there are multiple models, including paid for content that&#039;s worth paying for. Journalists need to learn to think like entrepreneurs and come up with ways of creating content that makes money from multiple sources (nor are free and paid mutually exclusive).

But unfortunately we do not hear this from Jeff Jarvis, and this is what makes me so disappointed in him. Jeff has set himself up as an educator, of young students (at CUNY) and of old-school executives. Yet his adamant rejection of paid content means he&#039;s presenting an incomplete picture. He&#039;s not objective, as the best educators tend to be. He&#039;s adamantly biased.

When we hear about the proposals from Jeff&#039;s CUNY class on new business models for news, we hear names of projects but not the business models behind them. I wonder why. Is it because there&#039;s no model, other than free? It&#039;s great to come up with ideas, but how do they get paid for?

Kind regards,
Evan Rudowski</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, John. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just plain irresponsible to reject a paid content model out-of-hand, and keep pushing journalists hellbent down the path of free. </p>
<p>Most journalists will not earn enough from &#8220;free&#8221; to boost themselves into the ranks of the successfully self-employed, or even better into the ranks of successful entrepreneurs. Therefore, teaching them to focus solely on &#8220;free&#8221; merely serves to reinforce the plantation system that has kept many journalists as low-paid serfs in  newsrooms across America and the world.</p>
<p>Of course now the newspaper model is collapsing, so instead many of these journalists will find themselves on new online plantations.</p>
<p>The responsible thing to do is to teach journalists that there are multiple models, including paid for content that&#8217;s worth paying for. Journalists need to learn to think like entrepreneurs and come up with ways of creating content that makes money from multiple sources (nor are free and paid mutually exclusive).</p>
<p>But unfortunately we do not hear this from Jeff Jarvis, and this is what makes me so disappointed in him. Jeff has set himself up as an educator, of young students (at CUNY) and of old-school executives. Yet his adamant rejection of paid content means he&#8217;s presenting an incomplete picture. He&#8217;s not objective, as the best educators tend to be. He&#8217;s adamantly biased.</p>
<p>When we hear about the proposals from Jeff&#8217;s CUNY class on new business models for news, we hear names of projects but not the business models behind them. I wonder why. Is it because there&#8217;s no model, other than free? It&#8217;s great to come up with ideas, but how do they get paid for?</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
Evan Rudowski</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Josefowicz</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389364</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Josefowicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another word: Bloomberg Press. He seems to be able to make the transition from web service to TV to publishing books.
http://www.ordering1.us/bloombergbooks/show_all.php?cid=3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another word: Bloomberg Press. He seems to be able to make the transition from web service to TV to publishing books.<br />
<a href="http://www.ordering1.us/bloombergbooks/show_all.php?cid=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.ordering1.us/bloombergbooks/show_all.php?cid=3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Pundit</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389361</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give a damn.

Like many, many others, I hope journalism dies, the quicker the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give a damn.</p>
<p>Like many, many others, I hope journalism dies, the quicker the better.</p>
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		<title>By: iTunes and the News Shakeout &#171; NP-Harder</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389356</link>
		<dc:creator>iTunes and the News Shakeout &#171; NP-Harder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] their competitors followed suit.  As Jeff Jarvis pointed out in response to Carr&#8217;s article, there&#8217;s no scarcity, and without scarcity, they can&#8217;t fetch the price they need to support [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] their competitors followed suit.  As Jeff Jarvis pointed out in response to Carr&#8217;s article, there&#8217;s no scarcity, and without scarcity, they can&#8217;t fetch the price they need to support [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/01/12/penny-for-his-thoughts/#comment-389354</link>
		<dc:creator>John Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, free is a business model. It&#039;s just not a very good one if everyone tries to clamber aboard. And when we look back at a distance on the past 5 years we might be better positioned to see the harm it ultimately did to creativity and investment in real innovation. In the end, customers making decisions about what to buy and what not to buy is good. 

If you are just producing information that is available free elsewhere then of course it is silly to try to charge for it. But the march of the free simply meant a focus on cheap largely fungible content that brought down the barriers to entry and tempted some of our best entrepreneurs down blind alleys lined with low costs. Too much money has been invested producing copycat cheapskate businesses that can be free, rather than answering the very sensible age-old question: &quot;What can I do that people might value enough to pay for? And if people won&#039;t pay for what I am doing, then why am I doing it?&quot;&quot; It&#039;s going to be ugly for a while but it will be better in the end.

Death to the free: Why the recession is (ultimately) good for online publishing
http://garciainteractive.com/blog/view/29/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, free is a business model. It&#8217;s just not a very good one if everyone tries to clamber aboard. And when we look back at a distance on the past 5 years we might be better positioned to see the harm it ultimately did to creativity and investment in real innovation. In the end, customers making decisions about what to buy and what not to buy is good. </p>
<p>If you are just producing information that is available free elsewhere then of course it is silly to try to charge for it. But the march of the free simply meant a focus on cheap largely fungible content that brought down the barriers to entry and tempted some of our best entrepreneurs down blind alleys lined with low costs. Too much money has been invested producing copycat cheapskate businesses that can be free, rather than answering the very sensible age-old question: &#8220;What can I do that people might value enough to pay for? And if people won&#8217;t pay for what I am doing, then why am I doing it?&#8221;" It&#8217;s going to be ugly for a while but it will be better in the end.</p>
<p>Death to the free: Why the recession is (ultimately) good for online publishing<br />
<a href="http://garciainteractive.com/blog/view/29/" rel="nofollow">http://garciainteractive.com/blog/view/29/</a></p>
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