Comments on: Talk is not cheap

By: WAN/WEF is cancelled – but still they don´t get it · Mindpark

WAN/WEF is cancelled – but still they don´t get it · Mindpark — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:00:20 +0000

[...] of friends, this industry doesn’t need any enemies. Jeff Jarvis writes about it here: “ Talk is not cheap“, and he has mentioned it earlier as well. A lot of people will have things to say and it [...]

By: Veckan som gick - vecka 4 at Same Same But Different

Veckan som gick - vecka 4 at Same Same But Different — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:03:38 +0000

[...] ägt rum i Indien om ett par månader. Joakim Jardenberg kommenterar på Mindpark, Jeff Jarvis tycker också till. The Guardian skriver [...]

By: Michael Josefowicz

Michael Josefowicz — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:24:36 +0000

So it would be cool if they put together a networked video conference.hint: i think lots of FedEx stores and schools have great video conference rooms. Then they could do a wiki for the discussions. Then they could do twitter for the cocktail party aspect. Then linkedin to network for jobs. Then email for open conversations. Then Skype for private conversations.

Probably a lot cheaper and more productive. Start the discussion about three weeks before the conference. Then all get online for a day or two to move the discussion further and ask questions.

Oops! But then…what exactly is the Trade Association getting paid for? Oh yes, they are the trusted brand and that is some value. Just a lot less than they were back in the day.

By: bertrand pecquerie

bertrand pecquerie — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:11:38 +0000

Thanks for adding my comments, Jeff.

I will keep you informed when new dates will be fixed for the 2009 Newspaper Congress and the Editors Forum.

Bertrand Pecquerie
World Editors Forum
http://www.worldeditorsforum.org

By: WAN/WEF ställs in - men fortfarande förstår man inte · Mindpark

WAN/WEF ställs in - men fortfarande förstår man inte · Mindpark — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:45:59 +0000

[...] igen. Men sådana vänner behöver den här branschen inga fiender. Jeff Jarvis skriver om det, ” Talk is not cheap”, och har varit inne på det tidigare. Fler kommer säkert att kommentera för nu vore det [...]

By: Karl

Karl — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:37:08 +0000

“Postponing two conferences – the Publishers Congress and the Editors Forum – is not the end of the world and Jeff cannot take his desires and opinions about the state of the industry for reality.”

Oddly enough, I though Jeff’s opinions stemmed more from the bankruptcy of the Tribune Corp. and the Mpls. Strib, the near bankruptcy of the NYT, the unwinding of the Seattle P-I, the inexorable decline in print circulation almost everywhere, etc., etc. Maybe none of that is based on reality either.

“when managers and editors cut costs and ask not to travel, evidently conferences and seminars are the first to be threatened.”

I think there are any number of former newspaper employees who would beg to differ, but why are costs being cut if Jeff is hoaxing the public about the state of print?

By: Recession budgets killing media? — Vad NU!

Recession budgets killing media? — Vad NU! — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:32:01 +0000

[...] has been unable to get members to fund the trip to India and thus has found it necessary to cancel their yearly convention. Which, as he correctly puts it, is precisely the wrong thing to do, as they have plenty of things [...]

By: Kimberly

Kimberly — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:57:40 +0000

I’m not convinced this is something they couldn’t have avoided. There have been thousands of opportunities to adapt over the last 5-10 years. If they haven’t adapted enough to stay afloat, they’ve allowed themselves to become obsolete. Unfortunately, it may be too late for many of them to reevaluate their role in local media and recover.