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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: KoopTech &#187; Titelgeschichte &#187; &#8220;Haltung&#8221; als journalistische Kernkompetenz</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/02/04/deconstructing-and-auditing-journalism/#comment-404048</link>
		<dc:creator>KoopTech &#187; Titelgeschichte &#187; &#8220;Haltung&#8221; als journalistische Kernkompetenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nicht wesentlich erweitert. Jeff Jarvis hat dies wiederum in einem eigenen Beitrag aufgegriffen und stimmte grunds&#228;tzlich zu. Als n&#228;chsten Schritt forderte er eine &#220;berpr&#252;fung des journalistischen Outputs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nicht wesentlich erweitert. Jeff Jarvis hat dies wiederum in einem eigenen Beitrag aufgegriffen und stimmte grunds&#228;tzlich zu. Als n&#228;chsten Schritt forderte er eine &#220;berpr&#252;fung des journalistischen Outputs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: #cfund debate: New business models for media&#124; Novos modelos de negócio para os media &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/02/04/deconstructing-and-auditing-journalism/#comment-390743</link>
		<dc:creator>#cfund debate: New business models for media&#124; Novos modelos de negócio para os media &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Deconstructing and auditing journalism « BuzzMachine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christiane Schulzki-Haddouti</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/02/04/deconstructing-and-auditing-journalism/#comment-390279</link>
		<dc:creator>Christiane Schulzki-Haddouti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree with Jörg and Andy. My definition of basic elements of journalism does not say anything about quality or values. They belong to a different level which is not less important, if not even decisive for the success of journalistic work. So I guess we cannot discuss innovations in journalism and ignore qualitiy and value issues. But we have to deconstruct our work in order to rethink it thoroughly and find new ways to develop it in the digital space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree with Jörg and Andy. My definition of basic elements of journalism does not say anything about quality or values. They belong to a different level which is not less important, if not even decisive for the success of journalistic work. So I guess we cannot discuss innovations in journalism and ignore qualitiy and value issues. But we have to deconstruct our work in order to rethink it thoroughly and find new ways to develop it in the digital space.</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg Wittkewitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joerg Wittkewitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very point in redefining journalism is the room &quot;between&quot; as martin buber enlightens us in his dialogue philosphy. The &quot;between&quot; is the point where the I and the YOU begin to exist. So if one writes down an article he or she had been struck by an event or a random discovery. This comes to reality like lightning mostly. Then research starts and the chain of functions as mentioned above is rumbling in the journalist&#039;s head. But you had been struck. If this opening of day-to-day relationship towards the world is not transfered into the text, you&#039;ll miss the news, you&#039;ll miss the very point even everything has been put into words closely to the facts. You have to admit that the I of the writer and the YOU (the part of the world that struck you) have been linked by this abyss. Only moments in life when this gap shows up, meaning of words get together with what is behind words. So the best journalism would be leave everything behind what is not astonishing, Despite all journalism schools I know (i&#039;m from germany) it is the silver bullet for authors not to fullfill reader&#039;s expectations in terms of focusing on the strike that hit us and not the garbage facts lying around waiting to be picked up by investigation and giving a crutch for the anankastic encyclopaedic knowledge which has led us the catastrophe we are facing now with capitalism1.0...

just my tow cents

Joerg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very point in redefining journalism is the room &#8220;between&#8221; as martin buber enlightens us in his dialogue philosphy. The &#8220;between&#8221; is the point where the I and the YOU begin to exist. So if one writes down an article he or she had been struck by an event or a random discovery. This comes to reality like lightning mostly. Then research starts and the chain of functions as mentioned above is rumbling in the journalist&#8217;s head. But you had been struck. If this opening of day-to-day relationship towards the world is not transfered into the text, you&#8217;ll miss the news, you&#8217;ll miss the very point even everything has been put into words closely to the facts. You have to admit that the I of the writer and the YOU (the part of the world that struck you) have been linked by this abyss. Only moments in life when this gap shows up, meaning of words get together with what is behind words. So the best journalism would be leave everything behind what is not astonishing, Despite all journalism schools I know (i&#8217;m from germany) it is the silver bullet for authors not to fullfill reader&#8217;s expectations in terms of focusing on the strike that hit us and not the garbage facts lying around waiting to be picked up by investigation and giving a crutch for the anankastic encyclopaedic knowledge which has led us the catastrophe we are facing now with capitalism1.0&#8230;</p>
<p>just my tow cents</p>
<p>Joerg</p>
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		<title>By: Links for today &#124; Links para hoje &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for today &#124; Links para hoje &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: riverScrap</title>
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		<dc:creator>riverScrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a lot of truth in your deconstruction, but to me it&#039;s just about telling stories that closely (or not so closely, as the case may be) mimic real-world events. I&#039;d say context is 90% of the story, and editors seem to have quite a bit of free rein in that department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a lot of truth in your deconstruction, but to me it&#8217;s just about telling stories that closely (or not so closely, as the case may be) mimic real-world events. I&#8217;d say context is 90% of the story, and editors seem to have quite a bit of free rein in that department.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/02/04/deconstructing-and-auditing-journalism/#comment-390221</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unclear where trust and/or value are produced by this abstraction.  If they&#039;re not consequences, isn&#039;t the abstraction missing something essential?

It might be interesting to ask &quot;How can I produce value for people by providing them information about current events?&quot;  (In that formulation, trust is not necessarily essential.  It will come in only as it affects value.  One could also start with trust and see if it implies value.)

The five functions above will produce value in some cases but in others they won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unclear where trust and/or value are produced by this abstraction.  If they&#8217;re not consequences, isn&#8217;t the abstraction missing something essential?</p>
<p>It might be interesting to ask &#8220;How can I produce value for people by providing them information about current events?&#8221;  (In that formulation, trust is not necessarily essential.  It will come in only as it affects value.  One could also start with trust and see if it implies value.)</p>
<p>The five functions above will produce value in some cases but in others they won&#8217;t.</p>
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