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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Between Brackets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mobile Media Day 2009: Le Monde</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-394134</link>
		<dc:creator>Between Brackets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mobile Media Day 2009: Le Monde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people keep depicting the &#8220;old&#8221; media as unwilling to change. Here Jeff Jarvis has a go at it (again), and there&#8217;s lots of people around the web classifying [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people keep depicting the &#8220;old&#8221; media as unwilling to change. Here Jeff Jarvis has a go at it (again), and there&#8217;s lots of people around the web classifying [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wood-Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Wood-Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Front Porch Forum accused of hastening the demise of community newspapers: http://tr.im/cnpdecline</description>
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		<title>By: Gretchen Scheiman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretchen Scheiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Jeff, very thought provoking.  I am concerned about the lack of budget (IF that is true) for true investigative journalism, but I also wonder if, were the budget unlimited, there would be any in-depth investigative reports anyway.  The news media as a whole does not do a great job of helping people understand the big stories that are out there already (witness 2004-2008 reporting on Fannie Mae, which was a known issue during that time, or lack of reporting on Oil For Food scandal, or any number of other stories not pursued).  How can I possibly believe they&#039;d do any better with hidden stories?

I do wonder how we can promote better journalism and standards in the current nearly-free-of-cost environment, as last I checked communism didn&#039;t work.  What prompts quality and work ethic in new-school journalism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Jeff, very thought provoking.  I am concerned about the lack of budget (IF that is true) for true investigative journalism, but I also wonder if, were the budget unlimited, there would be any in-depth investigative reports anyway.  The news media as a whole does not do a great job of helping people understand the big stories that are out there already (witness 2004-2008 reporting on Fannie Mae, which was a known issue during that time, or lack of reporting on Oil For Food scandal, or any number of other stories not pursued).  How can I possibly believe they&#8217;d do any better with hidden stories?</p>
<p>I do wonder how we can promote better journalism and standards in the current nearly-free-of-cost environment, as last I checked communism didn&#8217;t work.  What prompts quality and work ethic in new-school journalism?</p>
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		<title>By: Our Niche Culture - the era of access and choice &#171; Bippity Boppity Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our Niche Culture - the era of access and choice &#171; Bippity Boppity Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] conveys about the profound cultural shift towards the tail, it&#8217;s easy to recognize how news consumption, entertainment, music, and small businesses&#8230;etc. are all trying to appeal to consumers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob P.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy writes: &quot;I’m pretty sure that it’s not the biz side that inserts factual errors into stories.&quot;

Of course not. I was just asserting that the death of newspapers isn&#039;t simply a statement on the quality of reporting and commentating. Sure, there are always mistakes and distortions and simplifications and all that. Always have been. Always will be. Of course, there are mistakes and distortions and simplifications and all that among bloggers and other kinds of digital media, too. Always will be. This is because the work is being done by human beings. I&#039;m not saying &quot;oh, don&#039;t worry about all those mistakes!&quot; Journalists and writers of any kind should always be worried about these things and should always be trying to do better. Do journalists lose touch sometimes, too? Sure.

But I still believe that the biggest problem for newspapers is not that people have given up on news. Lots of people want and devour news. The problem for newspapers is that the revenue model has eroded. Adapting to this is not typically the responsibility of a daily newspaper reporter. The managing editor? Well, maybe the managing editor should be trying to do something about this. But mostly it is the responsibility of the publishers and the executives. I&#039;m not saying they have had easy decisions to make. I think they&#039;re in a tough spot. But ultimately, this kind of stuff is their job.

The dilemma is that changing the print product too much upsets those people who are the very loyal, longtime readers -- believe it or not there are many people out there who love that dinosaur known as the newspaper and hate the idea of reading the news online. Really. Newspaper people worry a lot about making these readers, their best customers, unhappy. Of course, papers can follow those people for too long -- and follow them right into the grave. Still, they are the bread and butter. So I think a lot of papers are stuck between the past and the future, wondering what to do, standing there like a deer in the proverbial headlights. And, yeah, those headlights might just be Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy writes: &#8220;I’m pretty sure that it’s not the biz side that inserts factual errors into stories.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course not. I was just asserting that the death of newspapers isn&#8217;t simply a statement on the quality of reporting and commentating. Sure, there are always mistakes and distortions and simplifications and all that. Always have been. Always will be. Of course, there are mistakes and distortions and simplifications and all that among bloggers and other kinds of digital media, too. Always will be. This is because the work is being done by human beings. I&#8217;m not saying &#8220;oh, don&#8217;t worry about all those mistakes!&#8221; Journalists and writers of any kind should always be worried about these things and should always be trying to do better. Do journalists lose touch sometimes, too? Sure.</p>
<p>But I still believe that the biggest problem for newspapers is not that people have given up on news. Lots of people want and devour news. The problem for newspapers is that the revenue model has eroded. Adapting to this is not typically the responsibility of a daily newspaper reporter. The managing editor? Well, maybe the managing editor should be trying to do something about this. But mostly it is the responsibility of the publishers and the executives. I&#8217;m not saying they have had easy decisions to make. I think they&#8217;re in a tough spot. But ultimately, this kind of stuff is their job.</p>
<p>The dilemma is that changing the print product too much upsets those people who are the very loyal, longtime readers &#8212; believe it or not there are many people out there who love that dinosaur known as the newspaper and hate the idea of reading the news online. Really. Newspaper people worry a lot about making these readers, their best customers, unhappy. Of course, papers can follow those people for too long &#8212; and follow them right into the grave. Still, they are the bread and butter. So I think a lot of papers are stuck between the past and the future, wondering what to do, standing there like a deer in the proverbial headlights. And, yeah, those headlights might just be Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; When a small-town city council can make decisions with your tax dollars and there’s no new-wave ‘journalist’ interested enough to follow and tell the public what it NEEDS to hear - that will be a very, very sad day indeed, whether you believe that or not.

The local paper isn&#039;t losing money because it&#039;s too expensive to cover local news.  It&#039;s losing money, and readers, because it&#039;s spending to much time on &quot;news&quot; that I can get elsewhere for free.

Take a copy of your local paper.  Throw away the ads.  Throw away the wire copy.  The pittance that&#039;s left is the local news, the stuff that you can&#039;t get elsewhere.  Ask yourself what fraction of their costs went into producing said pittance.

I think that local papers in small burbs can even make money on truly local ads.

Publications that deliver that deliver unique, good, and valuable content have a future as long as they don&#039;t waste money on other content.

Covering the local city council can be unique, good, and valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; When a small-town city council can make decisions with your tax dollars and there’s no new-wave ‘journalist’ interested enough to follow and tell the public what it NEEDS to hear &#8211; that will be a very, very sad day indeed, whether you believe that or not.</p>
<p>The local paper isn&#8217;t losing money because it&#8217;s too expensive to cover local news.  It&#8217;s losing money, and readers, because it&#8217;s spending to much time on &#8220;news&#8221; that I can get elsewhere for free.</p>
<p>Take a copy of your local paper.  Throw away the ads.  Throw away the wire copy.  The pittance that&#8217;s left is the local news, the stuff that you can&#8217;t get elsewhere.  Ask yourself what fraction of their costs went into producing said pittance.</p>
<p>I think that local papers in small burbs can even make money on truly local ads.</p>
<p>Publications that deliver that deliver unique, good, and valuable content have a future as long as they don&#8217;t waste money on other content.</p>
<p>Covering the local city council can be unique, good, and valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: Missing Something</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missing Something</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this complaining about Google links just sounds like more refusal to change.  This is the new state of game - like it or not.  

But maybe everyone else sees something other than what I see at Google News or in the search results.

When I go to Google News or search for &quot;Maersk Alabama,&quot;  I get a Google page with their ads which is perfectly fair, after all.  When I click through to read the full story from the L.A. Times, I go to the L.A. Times website which has the L.A. Times&#039; ads on it.  

Am I missing something?  

Or is it just easier to say Google should pay rather than come up with a real business plan to save the News aggregation business that once was known as &quot;newspapers&quot;?

As has been stated and is obvious, if Google stops linking to these news sites, it would be almost the same as turning those news sites off completely.  Where would that leave folks on the internet to get their news from?  Drudge?  Is that what the newspaper industry wants?  

Listen, I get that we need a way to pay for all of this and I firmly believe that the news aggregation portion of the newspaper business is important but we need to come up with other ways to make it work or actually try some of the suggestions that have been made.

P.S. - Objectivity, like perfection, is a fine thing to strive for that can never be fully met.  The internet did not blur those lines - people&#039;s desire to get news coming from their own point-of-view did.  See the popularity of Limbaugh, Rush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this complaining about Google links just sounds like more refusal to change.  This is the new state of game &#8211; like it or not.  </p>
<p>But maybe everyone else sees something other than what I see at Google News or in the search results.</p>
<p>When I go to Google News or search for &#8220;Maersk Alabama,&#8221;  I get a Google page with their ads which is perfectly fair, after all.  When I click through to read the full story from the L.A. Times, I go to the L.A. Times website which has the L.A. Times&#8217; ads on it.  </p>
<p>Am I missing something?  </p>
<p>Or is it just easier to say Google should pay rather than come up with a real business plan to save the News aggregation business that once was known as &#8220;newspapers&#8221;?</p>
<p>As has been stated and is obvious, if Google stops linking to these news sites, it would be almost the same as turning those news sites off completely.  Where would that leave folks on the internet to get their news from?  Drudge?  Is that what the newspaper industry wants?  </p>
<p>Listen, I get that we need a way to pay for all of this and I firmly believe that the news aggregation portion of the newspaper business is important but we need to come up with other ways to make it work or actually try some of the suggestions that have been made.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; Objectivity, like perfection, is a fine thing to strive for that can never be fully met.  The internet did not blur those lines &#8211; people&#8217;s desire to get news coming from their own point-of-view did.  See the popularity of Limbaugh, Rush.</p>
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		<title>By: Frymaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because journalist call themselves objective or even truly strive for objectivity - this does not make it so. I am highly dubious of anybody who claims to be truly objective. I just don&#039;t see it in my reality. 

As with so many serious news junkies, I&#039;ve learned that objectivity or balance can only come in the aggregate. 

I&#039;ve always had a wide range of sources - predicated on NPR. Talking of which, here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/04/03/02&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;very interesting talk&lt;/a&gt; about a study of the so-called echo chamber effect. Turns out that hi-tech news junkies get more inputs from more viewpoints, not less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because journalist call themselves objective or even truly strive for objectivity &#8211; this does not make it so. I am highly dubious of anybody who claims to be truly objective. I just don&#8217;t see it in my reality. </p>
<p>As with so many serious news junkies, I&#8217;ve learned that objectivity or balance can only come in the aggregate. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always had a wide range of sources &#8211; predicated on NPR. Talking of which, here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/04/03/02" rel="nofollow">very interesting talk</a> about a study of the so-called echo chamber effect. Turns out that hi-tech news junkies get more inputs from more viewpoints, not less.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Lerten</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-393026</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Lerten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Bob&#039;s analogy wasn&#039;t the best - but your hoity-toity look at journalists is worse. When a small-town city council can make decisions with your tax dollars and there&#039;s no new-wave &#039;journalist&#039; interested enough to follow and tell the public what it NEEDS to hear - that will be a very, very sad day indeed, whether you believe that or not.
And to smear us with the &quot;we make mistakes&#039; tar-brush is ridiculous, too. We live or die by our fact-gathering, reporting reputation. Our name is on what we do. And as humans, we make mistakes. But most of the reporters I know/have worked with over three decades simply want to tell interesting, thought-provoking stories about issues that matter. Maybe you don&#039;t read/watch the same news I do, or maybe you come to it with a built-in set of biases. (That&#039;s OK, many do.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Bob&#8217;s analogy wasn&#8217;t the best &#8211; but your hoity-toity look at journalists is worse. When a small-town city council can make decisions with your tax dollars and there&#8217;s no new-wave &#8216;journalist&#8217; interested enough to follow and tell the public what it NEEDS to hear &#8211; that will be a very, very sad day indeed, whether you believe that or not.<br />
And to smear us with the &#8220;we make mistakes&#8217; tar-brush is ridiculous, too. We live or die by our fact-gathering, reporting reputation. Our name is on what we do. And as humans, we make mistakes. But most of the reporters I know/have worked with over three decades simply want to tell interesting, thought-provoking stories about issues that matter. Maybe you don&#8217;t read/watch the same news I do, or maybe you come to it with a built-in set of biases. (That&#8217;s OK, many do.)</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Lerten</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-393025</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Lerten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not pay for good journalism? If true, sad - and scary. Joni Mitchell: &#039;Don&#039;t it always seem to go, that we don&#039;t know what we&#039;ve got &#039;til it&#039;s gone...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not pay for good journalism? If true, sad &#8211; and scary. Joni Mitchell: &#8216;Don&#8217;t it always seem to go, that we don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;ve got &#8217;til it&#8217;s gone&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Where are the innovators?&quot; after a prediction is asking someone else to implement that prediction.

There&#039;s no one who understands your prediction better than you, so why aren&#039;t you doing it?

As Scoop Nisker says &quot;If You Don&#039;t Like the News-- Go Out and Make Some of Your Own&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where are the innovators?&#8221; after a prediction is asking someone else to implement that prediction.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no one who understands your prediction better than you, so why aren&#8217;t you doing it?</p>
<p>As Scoop Nisker says &#8220;If You Don&#8217;t Like the News&#8211; Go Out and Make Some of Your Own&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Lerten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barney Lerten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So inherent human bias means objectivity is dead? I will say, til my dying breath, BS. Pure, total BS.
Analysis is fine. Editorializing is fine. But people crave fair, objective, unbiased journalism - in whatever form, at whatever level. 
To the level of a Little League game in a neighborhood blog: They want to read &quot;The Jackson Street Cougars were edged 4-3 by the sterling pitching of Andy Clark.&quot; Not &quot;The Cougars couldn&#039;t win a game if it were handed to them on a silver platter.&quot;
The Internet makes objectivity MORE dear, not less. Why does anyone who profess that appear to be branded a dinosaur, a curmudgeon? It boggles the mind.
 Of course we should move beyond &quot;he said, but they said&quot; notebook dumps. But no one elected or appointed journalists to decide who&#039;s right and who&#039;s wrong. That&#039;s for others to decide. Turn up wrongdoing? Expose it, but give the alleged wrongdoer his chance to defend him or herself.
Those are the principles I was born with, and will live and die with, long after not a drop of ink is spilled or tree felled create these ancient rags called newspapers. Not on a high horse, but not going with the digital flow, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So inherent human bias means objectivity is dead? I will say, til my dying breath, BS. Pure, total BS.<br />
Analysis is fine. Editorializing is fine. But people crave fair, objective, unbiased journalism &#8211; in whatever form, at whatever level.<br />
To the level of a Little League game in a neighborhood blog: They want to read &#8220;The Jackson Street Cougars were edged 4-3 by the sterling pitching of Andy Clark.&#8221; Not &#8220;The Cougars couldn&#8217;t win a game if it were handed to them on a silver platter.&#8221;<br />
The Internet makes objectivity MORE dear, not less. Why does anyone who profess that appear to be branded a dinosaur, a curmudgeon? It boggles the mind.<br />
 Of course we should move beyond &#8220;he said, but they said&#8221; notebook dumps. But no one elected or appointed journalists to decide who&#8217;s right and who&#8217;s wrong. That&#8217;s for others to decide. Turn up wrongdoing? Expose it, but give the alleged wrongdoer his chance to defend him or herself.<br />
Those are the principles I was born with, and will live and die with, long after not a drop of ink is spilled or tree felled create these ancient rags called newspapers. Not on a high horse, but not going with the digital flow, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it!</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John I understand what you are saying and certainly don&#039;t think the world owes us a living. My real gripe is that Jim&#039;s schadenfreude at the demise of the newspapers. I agree with him it is a reality and probably unstoppable at this point.
However, Google stands to profit from the break up of all these magazines and newspapers because of their adwords and page ranking. Indeed Jim makes money from them on his blog as do the other creatives you talk about.
The newpapers and magazines used to give reporters and photographers, etc a voice and reach. Sure the internet allows this but, really, let&#039;s think about who controls this... not the people but Google.
I have put my website here for disclosure.
Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John I understand what you are saying and certainly don&#8217;t think the world owes us a living. My real gripe is that Jim&#8217;s schadenfreude at the demise of the newspapers. I agree with him it is a reality and probably unstoppable at this point.<br />
However, Google stands to profit from the break up of all these magazines and newspapers because of their adwords and page ranking. Indeed Jim makes money from them on his blog as do the other creatives you talk about.<br />
The newpapers and magazines used to give reporters and photographers, etc a voice and reach. Sure the internet allows this but, really, let&#8217;s think about who controls this&#8230; not the people but Google.<br />
I have put my website here for disclosure.<br />
Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gauvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Gauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy Freeman

Not my expectation...

Just an idea (prediction)...</description>
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<p>Not my expectation&#8230;</p>
<p>Just an idea (prediction)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; My prediction is that the future of journalism will revolve around how to make it possible to read something online with some satisfaction. Where are the innovators?

Why are you expecting someone else to implement your vision?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; My prediction is that the future of journalism will revolve around how to make it possible to read something online with some satisfaction. Where are the innovators?</p>
<p>Why are you expecting someone else to implement your vision?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gauvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Gauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a huge opportunity to do more than simply try to recreate the concept of newspapers on the internet. There will need to be some major innovation. It would be way too easy to just turn off the presses and turn on the websites. Reading online isn&#039;t the same as reading in print. So far there&#039;s very little reading online, mostly just searching and scanning, which is great and has it&#039;s place (but it&#039;s very tedious). My prediction is that the future of journalism will revolve around how to make it possible to read something online with some satisfaction. Where are the innovators?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a huge opportunity to do more than simply try to recreate the concept of newspapers on the internet. There will need to be some major innovation. It would be way too easy to just turn off the presses and turn on the websites. Reading online isn&#8217;t the same as reading in print. So far there&#8217;s very little reading online, mostly just searching and scanning, which is great and has it&#8217;s place (but it&#8217;s very tedious). My prediction is that the future of journalism will revolve around how to make it possible to read something online with some satisfaction. Where are the innovators?</p>
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		<title>By: A internet feriu de morte o jornalismo, dizem jornalistas &#171; Webmanario</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-392998</link>
		<dc:creator>A internet feriu de morte o jornalismo, dizem jornalistas &#171; Webmanario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis já escreveu sobre a enquete, me abstenho. É exatamente isso: o jornal precisa confrontar sua realidade (de que seu centenário [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis já escreveu sobre a enquete, me abstenho. É exatamente isso: o jornal precisa confrontar sua realidade (de que seu centenário [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-392997</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You might make the argument that, if every last single Web site charged, then people would have to pay if they wanted to keep up with the news. Wouldn&#039;t they? My answer to that is, no, they wouldn&#039;t. They simply wouldn&#039;t read the news. They&#039;d play Nintendo, or whatever other time-waster presented itself as a work alternative.&quot;

From my post:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/google/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=216403304&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AP Vs. Google Proves Web No Longer Wants To Be So Free &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You might make the argument that, if every last single Web site charged, then people would have to pay if they wanted to keep up with the news. Wouldn&#8217;t they? My answer to that is, no, they wouldn&#8217;t. They simply wouldn&#8217;t read the news. They&#8217;d play Nintendo, or whatever other time-waster presented itself as a work alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>From my post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/google/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=216403304" rel="nofollow">AP Vs. Google Proves Web No Longer Wants To Be So Free </a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-392982</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Well, you’re conflating “journalists” and the people who run the newspaper industry. They’re not the same. The reporters out gathering information and writing stories are not guiding the ship of their industry. ... That’s like saying the mechanics who build engines at GM should have foreseen the problems in the car industry.

Do you really want to argue that reporters have as little creative contribution as assembly line folk?

I&#039;m pretty sure that it&#039;s not the biz side that inserts factual errors into stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Well, you’re conflating “journalists” and the people who run the newspaper industry. They’re not the same. The reporters out gathering information and writing stories are not guiding the ship of their industry. &#8230; That’s like saying the mechanics who build engines at GM should have foreseen the problems in the car industry.</p>
<p>Do you really want to argue that reporters have as little creative contribution as assembly line folk?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that it&#8217;s not the biz side that inserts factual errors into stories.</p>
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		<title>By: John Banfill</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-392979</link>
		<dc:creator>John Banfill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry Jason but it just is not true that &quot;reporters, magazines, newspapers, musicians, artists and photographers have to make a living (for our economy’s sake also).&quot;  There are billions of people that can write and probably hundreds of millions that can write well.  There are many millions that have real artistic or musical talent.

The difference is that the computer and internet has given these talented people the ability to be their own publisher of news, literature, music, art, photography etc.  The difference is that they used to need a printing plant or have a music publisher, etc.  Now they can do it for free or at most become their own publisher for less than $50 per year for a domain name and web site.

They have talent and want to be creative and so they will.  There is not enough money to pay everyone for their talents.  The real boom in the internet and computers has happened in the last 10-15 years and you can see the writing on the wall.  There soon will be no money in any of these fields.  Any demand will be supplied by volunteers who need to express their creativity.  

I&#039;m sorry your job is disappearing fast.  Find another line of work, like so many of the rest of us have had to do.  Keep your talent and creativity, because the world will value it.  It just won&#039;t pay you for it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Jason but it just is not true that &#8220;reporters, magazines, newspapers, musicians, artists and photographers have to make a living (for our economy’s sake also).&#8221;  There are billions of people that can write and probably hundreds of millions that can write well.  There are many millions that have real artistic or musical talent.</p>
<p>The difference is that the computer and internet has given these talented people the ability to be their own publisher of news, literature, music, art, photography etc.  The difference is that they used to need a printing plant or have a music publisher, etc.  Now they can do it for free or at most become their own publisher for less than $50 per year for a domain name and web site.</p>
<p>They have talent and want to be creative and so they will.  There is not enough money to pay everyone for their talents.  The real boom in the internet and computers has happened in the last 10-15 years and you can see the writing on the wall.  There soon will be no money in any of these fields.  Any demand will be supplied by volunteers who need to express their creativity.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry your job is disappearing fast.  Find another line of work, like so many of the rest of us have had to do.  Keep your talent and creativity, because the world will value it.  It just won&#8217;t pay you for it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuck le papier &#124; marc-andré lavoie</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-392975</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuck le papier &#124; marc-andré lavoie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] move de la part de François Côté, qui s&#8217;inscrit dans un plus large (et très actuel) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] move de la part de François Côté, qui s&#8217;inscrit dans un plus large (et très actuel) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob P.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-392971</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you&#039;re conflating &quot;journalists&quot; and the people who run the newspaper industry. They&#039;re not the same. The reporters out gathering information and writing stories are not guiding the ship of their industry. They get paid wages. They don&#039;t make more when the business they work for sells more ads. That&#039;s like saying the mechanics who build engines at GM should have foreseen the problems in the car industry. I don&#039;t think you&#039;re talking about journalists -- you&#039;re talking about publishers and executives. I&#039;d venture that journalism isn&#039;t the problem -- there have always been journalists, always will be. They have long been needed and disparaged at the same time (see the Jefferson quote above -- he also said he&#039;d rather have newspapers than government, for whatever that&#039;s worth). I don&#039;t think the issue here is journalism. It has the same problems it&#039;s always had, and it&#039;s still here. People will always want information about their society. The problem is simply that reporters need to eat -- so how do they pay the grocery bill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;re conflating &#8220;journalists&#8221; and the people who run the newspaper industry. They&#8217;re not the same. The reporters out gathering information and writing stories are not guiding the ship of their industry. They get paid wages. They don&#8217;t make more when the business they work for sells more ads. That&#8217;s like saying the mechanics who build engines at GM should have foreseen the problems in the car industry. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re talking about journalists &#8212; you&#8217;re talking about publishers and executives. I&#8217;d venture that journalism isn&#8217;t the problem &#8212; there have always been journalists, always will be. They have long been needed and disparaged at the same time (see the Jefferson quote above &#8212; he also said he&#8217;d rather have newspapers than government, for whatever that&#8217;s worth). I don&#8217;t think the issue here is journalism. It has the same problems it&#8217;s always had, and it&#8217;s still here. People will always want information about their society. The problem is simply that reporters need to eat &#8212; so how do they pay the grocery bill?</p>
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		<title>By: Solitude</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-392970</link>
		<dc:creator>Solitude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linux 2.0.

Sorry, that is as close as I can come.</description>
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<p>Sorry, that is as close as I can come.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Hart</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/10/medias-change-haters/#comment-392969</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just highlights how little &quot;real journalists&quot; at &quot;real news agencies&quot; ever understood about their own industry.  The fact is they have never been concerned with journalistic integrity.  They have however always been concerned with how much money they could make from advertising of varying sorts.  The old model is falling down around them and in a very short amount of time the dinosaurs who can&#039;t evolve will all be dead, remembered for nostalgic reasons by other old farts who are just waiting around to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just highlights how little &#8220;real journalists&#8221; at &#8220;real news agencies&#8221; ever understood about their own industry.  The fact is they have never been concerned with journalistic integrity.  They have however always been concerned with how much money they could make from advertising of varying sorts.  The old model is falling down around them and in a very short amount of time the dinosaurs who can&#8217;t evolve will all be dead, remembered for nostalgic reasons by other old farts who are just waiting around to die.</p>
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