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	<title>Comments on: Journalists: Where do you add value?</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Pins Fast</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-463742</link>
		<dc:creator>Pins Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 05:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, but then who wants to read some spammy crap like this :
http://baseballtradpin16.mixxt.com/networks/wiki/index.index

YOU published that Trading Pins. You paid some Chinese person to write a half english article to boost your search engine rankings, but how is that customer demand? The internet is ful of crap like this and personally I am offended. How or why you would receive any reward for it is beyond my level of comprehension, since I tend to overestimate the ability of search engines to judge REAL content from FAKE. 

However fke your inbound link articles are, the constant links to &quot;trading pins&quot; make you number one in the search engine ranking. Congrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, but then who wants to read some spammy crap like this :<br />
<a href="http://baseballtradpin16.mixxt.com/networks/wiki/index.index" rel="nofollow">http://baseballtradpin16.mixxt.com/networks/wiki/index.index</a></p>
<p>YOU published that Trading Pins. You paid some Chinese person to write a half english article to boost your search engine rankings, but how is that customer demand? The internet is ful of crap like this and personally I am offended. How or why you would receive any reward for it is beyond my level of comprehension, since I tend to overestimate the ability of search engines to judge REAL content from FAKE. </p>
<p>However fke your inbound link articles are, the constant links to &#8220;trading pins&#8221; make you number one in the search engine ranking. Congrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Notes: A New Universe of News &#171; ZML Didaktik / Innovative Learning Scenarios</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-460061</link>
		<dc:creator>Notes: A New Universe of News &#171; ZML Didaktik / Innovative Learning Scenarios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jim Jarvis:  &#8222;Do what you know best and link to the rest&#8220; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sandy Johnston</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-457460</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

I just wanted to get in touch as I&#039;m a researcher for a TV Production company, we&#039;re currently making a programme on the case of Trevor Hardy - a serial killer from Manchester in the 1970&#039;&#039;s, who&#039;s story I believe you covered for the MEN. 

I&#039;d be very interested in speaking to you if possible? My contact e-mail is sjohnston@truenorth.tv or phone: 0113 394 5489

Many thanks

Sandy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>I just wanted to get in touch as I&#8217;m a researcher for a TV Production company, we&#8217;re currently making a programme on the case of Trevor Hardy &#8211; a serial killer from Manchester in the 1970&#8242;&#8217;s, who&#8217;s story I believe you covered for the MEN. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be very interested in speaking to you if possible? My contact e-mail is <a href="mailto:sjohnston@truenorth.tv">sjohnston@truenorth.tv</a> or phone: 0113 394 5489</p>
<p>Many thanks</p>
<p>Sandy</p>
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		<title>By: Ask jarvis &#124; LogoRequired</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-436630</link>
		<dc:creator>Ask jarvis &#124; LogoRequired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 01:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Journalists: Where do you add value? « BuzzMachineJeff Jarvis challenges Journalists to ask themselves a tough question: Journalism can&#039;t afford repetition and production anymore. [...] &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Journalists: Where do you add value? « BuzzMachineJeff Jarvis challenges Journalists to ask themselves a tough question: Journalism can&#39;t afford repetition and production anymore. [...] &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Puritea</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-433188</link>
		<dc:creator>Puritea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mixed between one another only to paint an instructive picture. Original posts: Mindy McAdams and Jeff Jarvis. First, McAdams: (L)et’s consider the story. Do you in fact have a story? It seems to me that a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mixed between one another only to paint an instructive picture. Original posts: Mindy McAdams and Jeff Jarvis. First, McAdams: (L)et’s consider the story. Do you in fact have a story? It seems to me that a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TopContent Marketing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Corporate Blogging In Limburgse Context</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-432417</link>
		<dc:creator>TopContent Marketing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Corporate Blogging In Limburgse Context</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ik ben daarom blij en het hartgrondig eens met zijn concrete tip dat je het beste ook naar je concurrenten kunt linken. Doet me denken aan Jeff Jarvis stelling  &#8220;Do what you do best, and link to the rest&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ik ben daarom blij en het hartgrondig eens met zijn concrete tip dat je het beste ook naar je concurrenten kunt linken. Doet me denken aan Jeff Jarvis stelling  &#8220;Do what you do best, and link to the rest&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Do what you do best and &#8230; &#171; Just Chillin &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-428788</link>
		<dc:creator>Do what you do best and &#8230; &#171; Just Chillin &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what you do best and&#160;&#8230;  &quot;Do what you do best and link to the rest.&quot; &#8212; Jeff Jarvis via [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Trading Pins</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-423523</link>
		<dc:creator>Trading Pins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that the value of journalism is really what the public demands. Some say that &quot;junk&quot; journalism is media such as TMZ, etc...but that type is fueled by public demand, therefore value journalism can only be measured by the demand needs of the public in general.</description>
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		<title>By: Resources for journopreneurs &#124; Tom Davidson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-414536</link>
		<dc:creator>Resources for journopreneurs &#124; Tom Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as the audience” piece – it reads like a manifesto. Similarly, Jeff Jarvis’  notion of “do what you do best, link to the rest” is critical. If you ever need to remind anyone of what’s at stake, Clay Shirky’s talk at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] as the audience” piece – it reads like a manifesto. Similarly, Jeff Jarvis’  notion of “do what you do best, link to the rest” is critical. If you ever need to remind anyone of what’s at stake, Clay Shirky’s talk at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Advertising can&#39;t be the only option and other musings from BarCamp NewsInnovation &#171; Christopher Wink</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-408114</link>
		<dc:creator>Advertising can&#39;t be the only option and other musings from BarCamp NewsInnovation &#171; Christopher Wink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It seemed to be a personification of online communities and conversations I&#8217;ve been following only online &#8212; like the value of personal branding, which was the focus of the first hour-long session  I attended, how valuable journalism school really is (why it might not be) and why news organizations and journalists need to add value. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It seemed to be a personification of online communities and conversations I&#8217;ve been following only online &#8212; like the value of personal branding, which was the focus of the first hour-long session  I attended, how valuable journalism school really is (why it might not be) and why news organizations and journalists need to add value. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 5 viktiga trender att tänka på i nätstrategiarbetet — Per-Åke Olsson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-407318</link>
		<dc:creator>5 viktiga trender att tänka på i nätstrategiarbetet — Per-Åke Olsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mediebolagen gäller det att fokusera på de områden där man kan tillföra värde. Allt som någon annan kan göra lika bra eller bättre till en lägre kostnad bör man fundera på [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mediebolagen gäller det att fokusera på de områden där man kan tillföra värde. Allt som någon annan kan göra lika bra eller bättre till en lägre kostnad bör man fundera på [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journal: Twitter Aggregation Way Cool &#171; Public Intelligence Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-404238</link>
		<dc:creator>Journal: Twitter Aggregation Way Cool &#171; Public Intelligence Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] “The Internet” is, in its way, a one-stop news shop; and through, in particular, the deceptively simple innovation that is the hyperlink, news outlets are increasingly defined by connection rather than separation. (Thus, the “Web.”) And that, in turn—fundamentally, if not completely—topples the competitive underpinnings of newsgathering as a profession. Do what you do best, and link to the rest. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] “The Internet” is, in its way, a one-stop news shop; and through, in particular, the deceptively simple innovation that is the hyperlink, news outlets are increasingly defined by connection rather than separation. (Thus, the “Web.”) And that, in turn—fundamentally, if not completely—topples the competitive underpinnings of newsgathering as a profession. Do what you do best, and link to the rest. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rebooting The News #28 &#171; Rebooting The News</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-403808</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebooting The News #28 &#171; Rebooting The News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis really captured the change with: &#8220;Do what you do best and link to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: saving the news. &#171; jennifer whitcomb.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-401586</link>
		<dc:creator>saving the news. &#171; jennifer whitcomb.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] though, it is important to take note: journalism cannot exist within our society if it holds no value.  I don’t think many would argue with the importance of journalism.  Journalists are watchdogs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] though, it is important to take note: journalism cannot exist within our society if it holds no value.  I don’t think many would argue with the importance of journalism.  Journalists are watchdogs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Baratelli</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-400963</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Baratelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Five months later, D Brooks, you have to eat your words: I got my first paid advertiser. Marriott Hotels!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five months later, D Brooks, you have to eat your words: I got my first paid advertiser. Marriott Hotels!</p>
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		<title>By: Search engine optimizing</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-397037</link>
		<dc:creator>Search engine optimizing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Link Economy is Ruthless   Jeff Jarvis explained why our current media machinery does not fit the web: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blog de Carlos &#187; Internet, periodistas, fuentes y malos hábitos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-395486</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog de Carlos &#187; Internet, periodistas, fuentes y malos hábitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mucho del artículo Journalists: Where do you add value? escrito por el periodista Jeff Jarvis, que reflexiona sobre el valor añadido que los periodistas [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mucho del artículo Journalists: Where do you add value? escrito por el periodista Jeff Jarvis, que reflexiona sobre el valor añadido que los periodistas [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Link Economy is Ruthless &#171; Site Seo Doctor Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-395227</link>
		<dc:creator>The Link Economy is Ruthless &#171; Site Seo Doctor Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis explained why our current media machinery does not fit the web: Every minute of a journalist’s time will need to go to adding unique value to the news [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Link Economy is Ruthless &#171; Site Seo Doctor</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-395218</link>
		<dc:creator>The Link Economy is Ruthless &#171; Site Seo Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 19:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis explained why our current media machinery does not fit the web: Every minute of a journalist’s time will need to go to adding unique value to the news [...]</description>
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		<title>By: eCommerce Share &#187; The Link Economy is Ruthless</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-394906</link>
		<dc:creator>eCommerce Share &#187; The Link Economy is Ruthless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis explained why our current media machinery does not fit the web: Every minute of a journalist’s time will need to go to adding unique value to the news [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yes indeed: why our users deserve better&#160;&#124;&#160;News Startup</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-394840</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes indeed: why our users deserve better&#160;&#124;&#160;News Startup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s also not about what we think might be valuable to our users. Rather, what do they actually care about? How can we fulfill their needs and desires? How can we add value? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The journalism bubble &#171; BuzzMachine</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-394823</link>
		<dc:creator>The journalism bubble &#171; BuzzMachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to head her new investigative unit. Arianna has said for sometime that she&#8217;s hiring reporters because their stories get more traffic. Denton told Ad Age: People &#8212; particularly if they&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to head her new investigative unit. Arianna has said for sometime that she&#8217;s hiring reporters because their stories get more traffic. Denton told Ad Age: People &#8212; particularly if they&#8217;re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Internet, periodistas, fuentes y malos hábitos</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-394246</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet, periodistas, fuentes y malos hábitos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 09:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mucho del artículo Journalists: Where do you add value? escrito por el periodista Jeff Jarvis, que reflexiona sobre el valor añadido que los periodistas [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mucho del artículo Journalists: Where do you add value? escrito por el periodista Jeff Jarvis, que reflexiona sobre el valor añadido que los periodistas [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Consumer Reports + National Enquirer + ? = the future of free societies &#124; Text Technologies</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-394074</link>
		<dc:creator>Consumer Reports + National Enquirer + ? = the future of free societies &#124; Text Technologies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] companies do their own curation for the benefit of their own audiences.  Jeff Jarvis seems to be pushing the curation idea [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/04/24/journalists-where-do-you-add-value/#comment-393979</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; He then segues into an indictment of all the hard-working, dedicated journalists who got into those professions leading with their ideals rather than financial motives.  Those people, who constitute the majority, have always focused on value, the value being their contribution to the betterment of society.

That&#039;s nice, but society doesn&#039;t much value their &quot;ideals&quot;.

Actually, it&#039;s not &quot;nice&quot;, it&#039;s wrong in the sense that Jarvis didn&#039;t &quot;seque into an indictment&quot;.  He pointed out that they&#039;re not going to make any money.  If, as Hogan says, they&#039;re not in it for the money, that shouldn&#039;t be a problem....

&gt; Tighter newsrooms have already sacrificed much of this “time-wasting” journalism that time and again changed the world for the better.

&quot;time and again&quot; suggests that such activities are far more common than they actually are.  In reality, they&#039;re quite rare.  (Not to mention that they often turn out to be overrated, Watergate anyone?)  I happen to agree that they&#039;re valuable, but since newsrooms don&#039;t do much do them, they&#039;re no reason to keep newsrooms alive.

good, unique, valuable to the reader is what pays.  Does Hogan really believe that folks should pay for something else?  Is he going to argue that the reader doesn&#039;t know what&#039;s valuable?  Does he think that me-toos &quot;should&quot; be paid more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; He then segues into an indictment of all the hard-working, dedicated journalists who got into those professions leading with their ideals rather than financial motives.  Those people, who constitute the majority, have always focused on value, the value being their contribution to the betterment of society.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s nice, but society doesn&#8217;t much value their &#8220;ideals&#8221;.</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s not &#8220;nice&#8221;, it&#8217;s wrong in the sense that Jarvis didn&#8217;t &#8220;seque into an indictment&#8221;.  He pointed out that they&#8217;re not going to make any money.  If, as Hogan says, they&#8217;re not in it for the money, that shouldn&#8217;t be a problem&#8230;.</p>
<p>&gt; Tighter newsrooms have already sacrificed much of this “time-wasting” journalism that time and again changed the world for the better.</p>
<p>&#8220;time and again&#8221; suggests that such activities are far more common than they actually are.  In reality, they&#8217;re quite rare.  (Not to mention that they often turn out to be overrated, Watergate anyone?)  I happen to agree that they&#8217;re valuable, but since newsrooms don&#8217;t do much do them, they&#8217;re no reason to keep newsrooms alive.</p>
<p>good, unique, valuable to the reader is what pays.  Does Hogan really believe that folks should pay for something else?  Is he going to argue that the reader doesn&#8217;t know what&#8217;s valuable?  Does he think that me-toos &#8220;should&#8221; be paid more?</p>
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