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By: social media marketing agency

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By: News Organizations using social media « Organizations and Stakeholders

News Organizations using social media « Organizations and Stakeholders — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:49:57 +0000

[...] professor in New York, Jeff Jarvis, disagrees with some of the adopted ethics policies in his blog post. He says the journalists would miss an opportunity to interact and work with the public to get news, [...]

By: James

James — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:23:55 +0000

Gotta say all this schtuff about “collaborative reporting” is, I believe, a very bad idea. Journalism has already “become death, destroyer of fact.”

I don’t really see what the value in watering down an already watery story with collaboration. Research the story (hint: guys, you might want to re-discover this requirement of journalism), write the copy, publish it, take flack for uncovering “the truth”.

That’s how it is supposed to happen, no?

By: Clases de Periodismo » Post Topic » Los periodista no necesitan un manual para twittear

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:18:22 +0000

[...] de Wall Street Journal, MarketWatch y News Wires recibieron hace poco, como cuenta aquí Jeff Jarvis, una lista de conducta on line apropiada bastante controvertida. He aquí algunas de las [...]

By: Media Channel 2.0 — Blog — Journalists Should Customize Social Networks to Maximize Experience

Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:07:47 +0000

[...] some criticism of the rules. One of the most interesting reactions came from venture capitalist Fred Wilson, focusing on three [...]

By: Organizational vs Individual representation in social media « 46alpha

Organizational vs Individual representation in social media « 46alpha — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:30:10 +0000

[...] lot of buzz (no pun intended – the name of his blog is BuzzMachine). His brief post is linked here. There were other posts in the blogosphere about it as well. Here’s another one by Gina [...]

By: Arriving at an ideal social-media policy for journalism, Part 1: Perspectives from journalists and news organizations

Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:02:42 +0000

[...] not “detail how an article was reported, written or edited.” Social media guru Jeff Jarvis rightfully points out that these rules challenge the very idea of the collaborative nature of journalism that is promoted [...]

By: Newpaper social media policies all miss mark | Socialmedia.biz

Newpaper social media policies all miss mark | Socialmedia.biz — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:35:21 +0000

[...] Jeff Jarvis at BuzzMachine:Missing the [...]

By: All the News That’s Fit to Tweet « Safe Digression

All the News That’s Fit to Tweet « Safe Digression — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:08:03 +0000

[...] Some folks raise the question, though: do these policies inhibit the very functions that make social media communities so compelling and useful by, well, tightly restricting how social you can be? Jeff Jarvis brings up the point of collaborative reporting, and the great opportunity for newspapers (like Talking Points Memo has done) to tap the resources of the broader community to advance their reporting. [...]

By: WSJ Social Media Policy « The Future of News

WSJ Social Media Policy « The Future of News — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:56:04 +0000

[...] [via Buzzmachine] [...]

By: brokerage

brokerage — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:42:22 +0000

OHH Some very interesting and insightful thoughts. I like this.

By: What educators, educationalists and pundits have said about Twitter « Learning Technologist jottings at Goldsmiths

Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:32:32 +0000

[...] How distributed and collaborative are journalists prepared to be about their work process? He talked about a memo from the Wall Street Journal to its journalists not to have discussions about sources or leads in the open on Twitter or social networks, because The Journal could lose exclusive stories. Pat Kane was much more interested in Jeff Jarvis’ view that it misses the point that journalists can improve their work through col… [...]

By: Dow Jones Social Media Rules Make a Lot of Sense « Chris Thilk

Dow Jones Social Media Rules Make a Lot of Sense « Chris Thilk — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:49:37 +0000

[...] I’ve failed to see what about the guidelines for online activities by Dow Jones is provoking such a strong reaction from social media types. While I might not agree 100% with with all of them I don’t see anything [...]

By: Wall Street Journal Gives Employees Social Media Rules | Move with Mind

Wall Street Journal Gives Employees Social Media Rules | Move with Mind — Sat, 23 May 2009 06:55:43 +0000

[...] rules for Twitter and the internet rob the paper and its reporters of a few key benefits," says Jeff Jarvis at BuzzMac. "This misses the chance to make their reporting [...]

By: Wall Street Journal Gives Employees Social Media Rules | GoSocial.us : Building Brands in Social Media and Online Marketing

Sat, 16 May 2009 13:44:24 +0000

[...] rules for Twitter and the internet rob the paper and its reporters of a few key benefits," says Jeff Jarvis at BuzzMac. "This misses the chance to make their reporting collaborative." [...]

By: Wall Street Journal restringe diálogo entre redação e leitores « Webmanario

Wall Street Journal restringe diálogo entre redação e leitores « Webmanario — Sat, 16 May 2009 11:43:19 +0000

[...] Wall Street Journal inclusive lançou um manual de conduta on-line para seus profissionais. E, por ele, é proibido compartilhar informação com o [...]

By: No title

No title — Sat, 16 May 2009 05:25:25 +0000

[...] de las normas más controvertidas las menciona Jeff Jarvis (btw, gracias por el libro!) y agrego otras que me llaman la atención: * Dejen que la cobertura [...]

By: Rob Levine

Rob Levine — Sat, 16 May 2009 03:29:35 +0000

>>>Employers are liable for what their employees do as part of their work.

Exactly my point! And they have insurance that covers employees _when they’re doing their jobs_ – not when they’re messing around with Twitter.

If you defame someone with Twitter, without checking facts, you can get sued.

-r

By: Die protestantische Ethik und der Geist von Social Media at viralmythen

Die protestantische Ethik und der Geist von Social Media at viralmythen — Fri, 15 May 2009 20:11:28 +0000

[...] Media-Richtlinien des zum Dow Jones-Verlag gehörenden Wall Street Journal schießen aber über das Ziel hinaus. So zum Beispiel folgender [...]

By: Nieman Journalism Lab: Matthew Ingram on the WSJ’s social media policy | DAILYMAIL

Fri, 15 May 2009 07:33:29 +0000

[...] Wall Street Journal’s rules of conduct were zipping around yesterday, inspiring comments from Jeff Jarvis, and others. Matthew Ingram, over at the Nieman Journalism Lab, agrees with Jarvis that the [...]

By: Andy Freeman

Andy Freeman — Fri, 15 May 2009 04:50:39 +0000

> People who drive have liability insurance.

Employers are liable for what their employees do as part of their work. Yes, some reporters take mass transit and/or work, but unless the rest teleport, their employers are liable for any at-fault driving accidents.

By: Mike Manitoba

Mike Manitoba — Fri, 15 May 2009 03:19:08 +0000

Let’s all just get drunk and make love.

By: Angela Connor

Angela Connor — Fri, 15 May 2009 03:13:13 +0000

You know what Jeff? There is still time for people to make mistakes with guidelines, realize they were mistakes and reverse them. As someone who is crafting social media guidelines for a news organization I understand and have communicated to the top that some of this has to be fluid. You may have a guideline that sounded great 3 weeks ago but needs to be tweaked, or that was flat out wrong. If that is the case, do something about it, quickly. The thing is (and we know newspapers aren’t very good at this) you have to have flexible editors and a culture where reporters and others can speak up without fear. Newspapers get so caught up in rules and FOLLOWING them to the death so no one looks bad, and that has to change. If you got it wrong, fix it. Come on, this isn’t rocket science so let’s not turn it into that. A cultural shift is needed in a big way!
Angela Connor | @communitygirl

By: Robert Levine

Robert Levine — Fri, 15 May 2009 00:30:10 +0000

>>>Good thing that they don’t let said unsupervised personnel drive. Oh wait – they do.

>>>If reporters aren’t trusted by their employers, why should I trust them? And no, editors can’t be the answer because they’re subject to the same need for supervision and aren’t gathering info.

This is just silly. People who drive have liability insurance. Newspapers do not have Twitter libel insurance.

Secondly, editors aren’t the answer – the system is. The whole point of editing is that a system – with editors, top-editors, copy-editors, etc. – is far less fallible than an individual.

For example, an editor might have pointed out that the relationship between driving (individual liability, in most cases) and libel (company liability in most case) is dubious at best. Than again, thinking before you type might help also!

By: Wall Street Journal rules for Twitter, Facebook are too harsh | Save the Media

Fri, 15 May 2009 00:17:58 +0000

[...] Jeff Jarvis: WSJ rules are “missing the point” of social media. [...]