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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-402304</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like they have a good idea if demand is there. What they are doing is nothing new. Hot rodders and customizers have been doing this for decades, only Local Motors are doing it on a larger scale. 

I&#039;ve been in the car business as a customizer, restorer, hot rodder all my life and now as a consultant to smaller comapnies in the aftermarket looking for the next big thing. I know where where the market is going (as it has been since cars were introduced)- creating a vehicle that reflects the owners&#039; personality. 

That&#039;s why customizing and hot rod shops stay busy because there&#039;s a market for improving what the car makers start. And in the car business big words and high tech terms are not even on most car buyers mind. They just want to know what it will do for them, how they look in it, is there a cool factor and how much it will cost. 

I own a 1956 Chevy 2-door wagon, equipped with an LS-4 engine, overdrive transmission, A/C, ultra leather int., and all the creature comforts I want. It looks cool, turns heads, runs and drives better than a new car, is very dependable and gets close to 30MPG at 75MPH and it will go up in value. There&#039;was no rocket science to building it and it cost under 30K to do most of it myself. Of course if you had it built, it would be twice that price but the point is, the personal factor with cars is old school and will never go away as long as we have entrepreneurs and innovators willing to give the consumer what they want.  Now all the car makers needs to do is focus on that characterisitic and maybe they&#039;ll ride the money train.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like they have a good idea if demand is there. What they are doing is nothing new. Hot rodders and customizers have been doing this for decades, only Local Motors are doing it on a larger scale. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in the car business as a customizer, restorer, hot rodder all my life and now as a consultant to smaller comapnies in the aftermarket looking for the next big thing. I know where where the market is going (as it has been since cars were introduced)- creating a vehicle that reflects the owners&#8217; personality. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why customizing and hot rod shops stay busy because there&#8217;s a market for improving what the car makers start. And in the car business big words and high tech terms are not even on most car buyers mind. They just want to know what it will do for them, how they look in it, is there a cool factor and how much it will cost. </p>
<p>I own a 1956 Chevy 2-door wagon, equipped with an LS-4 engine, overdrive transmission, A/C, ultra leather int., and all the creature comforts I want. It looks cool, turns heads, runs and drives better than a new car, is very dependable and gets close to 30MPG at 75MPH and it will go up in value. There&#8217;was no rocket science to building it and it cost under 30K to do most of it myself. Of course if you had it built, it would be twice that price but the point is, the personal factor with cars is old school and will never go away as long as we have entrepreneurs and innovators willing to give the consumer what they want.  Now all the car makers needs to do is focus on that characterisitic and maybe they&#8217;ll ride the money train.</p>
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		<title>By: Abel Creative - Simple solutions, out-of-the-box, for your website and online community.</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-402285</link>
		<dc:creator>Abel Creative - Simple solutions, out-of-the-box, for your website and online community.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an interesting example of automotive entrepreneurship, see this post by Jeff [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Henal</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-398859</link>
		<dc:creator>Henal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be great if local companies could make a come back but I think we are already too far gone to the big business world and the reliance on offshore manufacture of many many items, including but not limited to various car parts and accessories.   Pick and search local companies on line to see if you can get information on whether they actually manufacture their goods and I think you will find that almost all of them, the little bigger ones of course, are manufacturing elsewhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be great if local companies could make a come back but I think we are already too far gone to the big business world and the reliance on offshore manufacture of many many items, including but not limited to various car parts and accessories.   Pick and search local companies on line to see if you can get information on whether they actually manufacture their goods and I think you will find that almost all of them, the little bigger ones of course, are manufacturing elsewhere!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Stephens Marketing &#187; 13 Essential Blog Posts From June 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Stephens Marketing &#187; 13 Essential Blog Posts From June 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The New Detroit Isn&#8217;t Detroit &#8211; Jeff Jarvis (Buzz Machine) &#8220;&#8230;the most important hire a company can make today is a CCO, chief community officer. This isn’t anarchy or democracy. Rogers coins a rather high-fallutin’ phrase for what he advocated: bimodal intelligence. That is, everyone has a voice but at the end of the day, the company has a role to guide the process and product; that is the value the company adds but that works only if the company listens well.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The New Detroit Isn&#8217;t Detroit &#8211; Jeff Jarvis (Buzz Machine) &#8220;&#8230;the most important hire a company can make today is a CCO, chief community officer. This isn’t anarchy or democracy. Rogers coins a rather high-fallutin’ phrase for what he advocated: bimodal intelligence. That is, everyone has a voice but at the end of the day, the company has a role to guide the process and product; that is the value the company adds but that works only if the company listens well.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What Detroit Should Never Do - Mediaista.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Detroit Should Never Do - Mediaista.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another post written specifically to mention his book, Jeff Jarvis attempts to link Google the Goliath with LocalMotors.com the David. What the two have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: When innovation yields efficiency &#171; BuzzMachine</title>
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		<dc:creator>When innovation yields efficiency &#171; BuzzMachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that capital, once freed, may not go to building huge new ventures. It may go to building small new ventures. It may stay in the pockets of people doing transactions and now instead of spending it on Toyotas, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that capital, once freed, may not go to building huge new ventures. It may go to building small new ventures. It may stay in the pockets of people doing transactions and now instead of spending it on Toyotas, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well done.</description>
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		<title>By: Ariel Ferreira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariel Ferreira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, I apologize for the delay in answering this question - there were so many things to respond to in this thread! 

I take issue with the reference to &quot;component-jacking&quot;, not because you are incorrect, but because it is a standard industry practice.  New United Motors Manufacturing, Inc (aka, NUMMI) is a joint venture of Toyota &amp; GM - sharing parts agogo.  The Pontiac Vibe was one of the best-selling Pontiacs and featured a Toyota engine, and if I&#039;m not mistaking, a Corolla platform. 

This is simply good use of a mutually beneficial relationship.  The use of external components is different than NUMMI (as far as I know), and perhaps Morgan is the closest comparison for this. But at least we are designing unique chassis :)  

LM vehicles will meet all safety requirements.  We are not planning to get around the hurdles, we are planning to jump them in the same manner as other car makers. 

Ariel

aferreira@local-motors.com
@LM_Ari</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, I apologize for the delay in answering this question &#8211; there were so many things to respond to in this thread! </p>
<p>I take issue with the reference to &#8220;component-jacking&#8221;, not because you are incorrect, but because it is a standard industry practice.  New United Motors Manufacturing, Inc (aka, NUMMI) is a joint venture of Toyota &amp; GM &#8211; sharing parts agogo.  The Pontiac Vibe was one of the best-selling Pontiacs and featured a Toyota engine, and if I&#8217;m not mistaking, a Corolla platform. </p>
<p>This is simply good use of a mutually beneficial relationship.  The use of external components is different than NUMMI (as far as I know), and perhaps Morgan is the closest comparison for this. But at least we are designing unique chassis <img src='http://www.buzzmachine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>LM vehicles will meet all safety requirements.  We are not planning to get around the hurdles, we are planning to jump them in the same manner as other car makers. </p>
<p>Ariel</p>
<p><a href="mailto:aferreira@local-motors.com">aferreira@local-motors.com</a><br />
@LM_Ari</p>
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		<title>By: Laid Off Too</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395945</link>
		<dc:creator>Laid Off Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, you&#039;re probably right. GM and Chrysler may need big orders from Local Motors and others to survive as parts suppliers. However, if they put together an entire engine, etc, from their current specs, then they&#039;d be adding value to Local Motors. They&#039;d be able to charge something with a big profit margin, especially if it&#039;s a small volume order. Anyway, since GM and Chrysler&#039;s problems are now solved with our bailout money, they&#039;re be no need for them to try to create additional revenue streams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, you&#8217;re probably right. GM and Chrysler may need big orders from Local Motors and others to survive as parts suppliers. However, if they put together an entire engine, etc, from their current specs, then they&#8217;d be adding value to Local Motors. They&#8217;d be able to charge something with a big profit margin, especially if it&#8217;s a small volume order. Anyway, since GM and Chrysler&#8217;s problems are now solved with our bailout money, they&#8217;re be no need for them to try to create additional revenue streams.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; My suggestions have to do with a return to small workshops at some cost to “efficiency”, but with the side benefits of putting more people to work and making suppliers closer to their customers.  &lt;&lt;

Again, nice if it works out, and there are plenty of things that I do like to get locally, even if it costs a bit more. But remember that it wasn&#039;t until the production line that autos could come down in cost enough that average people could start to afford them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; My suggestions have to do with a return to small workshops at some cost to “efficiency”, but with the side benefits of putting more people to work and making suppliers closer to their customers.  &lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Again, nice if it works out, and there are plenty of things that I do like to get locally, even if it costs a bit more. But remember that it wasn&#8217;t until the production line that autos could come down in cost enough that average people could start to afford them.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; In fact, if Local Motors takes off, it could save those companies. &lt;&lt;

I must disagree. It&#039;s a nice thought. but if their business model depends on having off-the shelf parts and then putting together &quot;custom&quot; autos, they need the parrts in the first place. Unless they&#039;re going to have such demand that they can afford to get parts makers to do the very expensive engineering, tooling, and manufacturing investment to start making those parts. At which point it&#039;s another big auto comapny and needs a lot of volume of those parts to swing the deals economically.

That&#039;s not to say that a company couldn&#039;t figure out how to use standard parts and then somehow build a &quot;custom&quot; machine. But then the labor going into putting together the custom vehicle needs to be paid for as well. Sorry, but I don&#039;t see how this works without being enabled by the large volume of parts that the big car manufacturers made possible in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; In fact, if Local Motors takes off, it could save those companies. &lt;&lt;</p>
<p>I must disagree. It&#8217;s a nice thought. but if their business model depends on having off-the shelf parts and then putting together &#8220;custom&#8221; autos, they need the parrts in the first place. Unless they&#8217;re going to have such demand that they can afford to get parts makers to do the very expensive engineering, tooling, and manufacturing investment to start making those parts. At which point it&#8217;s another big auto comapny and needs a lot of volume of those parts to swing the deals economically.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that a company couldn&#8217;t figure out how to use standard parts and then somehow build a &#8220;custom&#8221; machine. But then the labor going into putting together the custom vehicle needs to be paid for as well. Sorry, but I don&#8217;t see how this works without being enabled by the large volume of parts that the big car manufacturers made possible in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Wyman writes, &quot;However, that doesn’t have anything to do with the potential success of Local Motors or similar efforts since the “big companies” who do parts design aren’t always GM, Chrysler, Ford, etc. Often, they are Lear, Borg Warner, Magna, etc…&quot;

Correct that different companies make the parts. But they only engineer and manufacture them because someone has created the demand for the parts, so they can make them at a cost-effetive level. Those parts are made to what were originally big auto manufacutrer specs. No parts manufacturer is going to bother with taking your order unless you can write a honking big check. And to do that, you can&#039;t base your business model on being able to get the off-the-shelf parts that haven&#039;t been designed yet. It becomes a circular argument, and one that does not work economically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Wyman writes, &#8220;However, that doesn’t have anything to do with the potential success of Local Motors or similar efforts since the “big companies” who do parts design aren’t always GM, Chrysler, Ford, etc. Often, they are Lear, Borg Warner, Magna, etc…&#8221;</p>
<p>Correct that different companies make the parts. But they only engineer and manufacture them because someone has created the demand for the parts, so they can make them at a cost-effetive level. Those parts are made to what were originally big auto manufacutrer specs. No parts manufacturer is going to bother with taking your order unless you can write a honking big check. And to do that, you can&#8217;t base your business model on being able to get the off-the-shelf parts that haven&#8217;t been designed yet. It becomes a circular argument, and one that does not work economically.</p>
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		<title>By: Thinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that local small companies are poised to make a comeback in all fields. One of the causes of our current predicament was the acquisition fever that raged in the 90s, erasing many successful, targeted family businesses. Though I think this may indeed be a viable, exciting option for some car buyers, I really like the reliablity, gracious nationwide service, parts availability, and wind-tunnel design that allows my 6-year-old Honda Civic (not a tiny car or a hybrid) to get 40 mpg on the highway and 35 in town. This is my second Civic, and, in a couple of years, my next car will be a new Honda, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that local small companies are poised to make a comeback in all fields. One of the causes of our current predicament was the acquisition fever that raged in the 90s, erasing many successful, targeted family businesses. Though I think this may indeed be a viable, exciting option for some car buyers, I really like the reliablity, gracious nationwide service, parts availability, and wind-tunnel design that allows my 6-year-old Honda Civic (not a tiny car or a hybrid) to get 40 mpg on the highway and 35 in town. This is my second Civic, and, in a couple of years, my next car will be a new Honda, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The whole “customers don’t care” about how something was made, or if it generated meaningful jobs, misses one of the huge trends in business…lots of people DO care. Robert Feinman’s example of slow food is a perfect example.

Yes, slow food is the perfect example.  There are a couple of slow food restaurants and several more that attempt to brand themselves that way, but the total market is smaller than what Denny&#039;s spends on napkins.  (Ordinary restaurants are significant and holding their own.)

Slow food is an extremely small niche that isn&#039;t growing - even the smug has plateaued.  Is that really your model for journalism going forward?

People will say that they care about a lot of things.  However, the difference between what they say and what they do is important if you&#039;re trying to sell them things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The whole “customers don’t care” about how something was made, or if it generated meaningful jobs, misses one of the huge trends in business…lots of people DO care. Robert Feinman’s example of slow food is a perfect example.</p>
<p>Yes, slow food is the perfect example.  There are a couple of slow food restaurants and several more that attempt to brand themselves that way, but the total market is smaller than what Denny&#8217;s spends on napkins.  (Ordinary restaurants are significant and holding their own.)</p>
<p>Slow food is an extremely small niche that isn&#8217;t growing &#8211; even the smug has plateaued.  Is that really your model for journalism going forward?</p>
<p>People will say that they care about a lot of things.  However, the difference between what they say and what they do is important if you&#8217;re trying to sell them things.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel Ferreira</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395886</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel Ferreira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, 

I&#039;m continually impressed by Ford&#039;s media strategy and clarity of communications.  Even under pressure you guys are forthright &amp; accessible.  

This is huge, especially for a company of Ford&#039;s scale. 

Ford &amp; Michigan are lucky to have you!

Ariel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m continually impressed by Ford&#8217;s media strategy and clarity of communications.  Even under pressure you guys are forthright &amp; accessible.  </p>
<p>This is huge, especially for a company of Ford&#8217;s scale. </p>
<p>Ford &amp; Michigan are lucky to have you!</p>
<p>Ariel</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps thinking that customers are assholes is part of why said customers don&#039;t think much of journalists.

Another reason why customers don&#039;t think much of journalists may be that many journalists act as if they&#039;re entitled to get paid to do what they want to do.  No one else has that entitlement, so why should journalists be any different?  (The answer shouldn&#039;t include anything that journalists promise but don&#039;t actually deliver.)

You&#039;re free to try to deal with customers on whatever terms you&#039;d like, but they&#039;re not obligated to accept said terms.  The fact that each party is free to set its own &quot;walk away&quot; conditions doesn&#039;t make either one of them assholes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps thinking that customers are assholes is part of why said customers don&#8217;t think much of journalists.</p>
<p>Another reason why customers don&#8217;t think much of journalists may be that many journalists act as if they&#8217;re entitled to get paid to do what they want to do.  No one else has that entitlement, so why should journalists be any different?  (The answer shouldn&#8217;t include anything that journalists promise but don&#8217;t actually deliver.)</p>
<p>You&#8217;re free to try to deal with customers on whatever terms you&#8217;d like, but they&#8217;re not obligated to accept said terms.  The fact that each party is free to set its own &#8220;walk away&#8221; conditions doesn&#8217;t make either one of them assholes.</p>
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		<title>By: Arash Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arash Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

I like this and I need a car. Ready to buy....

shane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>I like this and I need a car. Ready to buy&#8230;.</p>
<p>shane</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395864</link>
		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;locality&quot; idea is a great one.  One of my biggest pet peeves against Detroit types is the &quot;if it can&#039;t work in 40 below, it sux&quot; mentality.  There&#039;s tons of car designs that would be perfectly fine for CA and AZ, but aren&#039;t workable in Fairbanks or Detroit for that matter.

So, let&#039;s have &#039;em.  Who knows?  We may yet get &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuk_tuk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tuk Tuks&lt;/a&gt; here in Silicon Valley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;locality&#8221; idea is a great one.  One of my biggest pet peeves against Detroit types is the &#8220;if it can&#8217;t work in 40 below, it sux&#8221; mentality.  There&#8217;s tons of car designs that would be perfectly fine for CA and AZ, but aren&#8217;t workable in Fairbanks or Detroit for that matter.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s have &#8216;em.  Who knows?  We may yet get <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuk_tuk" rel="nofollow">Tuk Tuks</a> here in Silicon Valley.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wyman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395855</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 21:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik Sherman writes: &quot;off-the-shelf parts are only possible because of non-off-the-shelf engineering&quot;
Correct. However, that doesn&#039;t have anything to do with the potential success of Local Motors or similar efforts since the &quot;big companies&quot; who do parts design aren&#039;t always GM, Chrysler, Ford, etc. Often, they are Lear, Borg Warner, Magna, etc... If you want drive train components (turbo chargers, oil pumps, etc.) Borg Warner will be happy to design and build what you need. Or Lear designs, manufactures, and markets automotive seat systems, electrical distribution systems, and electronic products for the automotive industry. Other companies have other specialties. 
This is where folk like Chrysler, GM, Ford, etc. get their parts. If a company like Local Motor can demonstrate an ability to generate sales, we shouldn&#039;t doubt that the parts suppliers will be very happy to gain new customers and broaden their market.

bob wyman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik Sherman writes: &#8220;off-the-shelf parts are only possible because of non-off-the-shelf engineering&#8221;<br />
Correct. However, that doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with the potential success of Local Motors or similar efforts since the &#8220;big companies&#8221; who do parts design aren&#8217;t always GM, Chrysler, Ford, etc. Often, they are Lear, Borg Warner, Magna, etc&#8230; If you want drive train components (turbo chargers, oil pumps, etc.) Borg Warner will be happy to design and build what you need. Or Lear designs, manufactures, and markets automotive seat systems, electrical distribution systems, and electronic products for the automotive industry. Other companies have other specialties.<br />
This is where folk like Chrysler, GM, Ford, etc. get their parts. If a company like Local Motor can demonstrate an ability to generate sales, we shouldn&#8217;t doubt that the parts suppliers will be very happy to gain new customers and broaden their market.</p>
<p>bob wyman</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gauvin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395851</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Gauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not andrew keen, the book in the blog post looks interesting (The Age of the Unthinkable)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not andrew keen, the book in the blog post looks interesting (The Age of the Unthinkable)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Monty</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395848</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff,

Thanks for continuing to push the envelope on the automotive industry. As I&#039;ve said before (and we never got to catch up at SXSW as we initially discussed), I&#039;d like to have you come to Dearborn to see what&#039;s going on at Ford. As you know, we&#039;re in a different place than most of the other major auto manufacturers, and I&#039;d like you to kick the tires and lift the hood, so to speak, on what we&#039;re doing to innovate, from communications to product development and more.

Scott Monty
Global Digital Communications
&lt;a href=&quot;http://thefordstory.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ford Motor Company&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/scottmonty&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ScottMonty&lt;/a&gt; (best way to reach me)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff,</p>
<p>Thanks for continuing to push the envelope on the automotive industry. As I&#8217;ve said before (and we never got to catch up at SXSW as we initially discussed), I&#8217;d like to have you come to Dearborn to see what&#8217;s going on at Ford. As you know, we&#8217;re in a different place than most of the other major auto manufacturers, and I&#8217;d like you to kick the tires and lift the hood, so to speak, on what we&#8217;re doing to innovate, from communications to product development and more.</p>
<p>Scott Monty<br />
Global Digital Communications<br />
<a href="http://thefordstory.com" rel="nofollow">Ford Motor Company</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/scottmonty" rel="nofollow">@ScottMonty</a> (best way to reach me)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Manitoba</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395847</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Manitoba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, you make customers sound like assholes.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Manitoba</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395846</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Manitoba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jeff&#039;s well aware of Andrew Keen. If I&#039;m not mistaken, he declined an opportunity to debate him a few years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jeff&#8217;s well aware of Andrew Keen. If I&#8217;m not mistaken, he declined an opportunity to debate him a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: matt schulte</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395841</link>
		<dc:creator>matt schulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points that I want to....uh...point out. First, Jay says they will be profitable at 500 cars. To say that for a lot of people it&#039;s too much work to go the Local Motors route, misses the fact that that is irrelevant. It&#039;s a super-niche product. And also. The whole &quot;customers don&#039;t care&quot; about how something was made, or if it generated meaningful jobs, misses one of the huge trends in business...lots of people DO care. Robert Feinman&#039;s example of slow food is a perfect example. And, OK, 3 points.....&quot;outside of niches&quot;.....again, missing the point....as Jeff even highlights in his articel...The mass market is dead, replaced by the mass of niches. And one more....the &quot;platform&quot; idea Jeff mentions, that&#039;s the next new, for sure....I think the DIYcity Open 311 project...http://tinyurl.com/pzxo27 opening up city data in order for innovation to happen in the wild, is a similar take, and we&#039;ll see many many businesses built on the backs of this kind of data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points that I want to&#8230;.uh&#8230;point out. First, Jay says they will be profitable at 500 cars. To say that for a lot of people it&#8217;s too much work to go the Local Motors route, misses the fact that that is irrelevant. It&#8217;s a super-niche product. And also. The whole &#8220;customers don&#8217;t care&#8221; about how something was made, or if it generated meaningful jobs, misses one of the huge trends in business&#8230;lots of people DO care. Robert Feinman&#8217;s example of slow food is a perfect example. And, OK, 3 points&#8230;..&#8221;outside of niches&#8221;&#8230;..again, missing the point&#8230;.as Jeff even highlights in his articel&#8230;The mass market is dead, replaced by the mass of niches. And one more&#8230;.the &#8220;platform&#8221; idea Jeff mentions, that&#8217;s the next new, for sure&#8230;.I think the DIYcity Open 311 project&#8230;http://tinyurl.com/pzxo27 opening up city data in order for innovation to happen in the wild, is a similar take, and we&#8217;ll see many many businesses built on the backs of this kind of data.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel Ferreira</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/02/the-new-detroit-isnt-detroit/#comment-395840</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel Ferreira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so exciting, Jeff.  Thank you for this post.  Local Motors is very much focused on fulfilling the desires of car ENTHUSIASTS by enabling them to participate in the design, engineering and build processes. As you mention, this creates ownership and vested interest in the outcome of each vehicle.  

The focus on enthusiasts is important, especially at the beginning as we begin to put cars on the roads.  

As Jimmy pointed out, not everyone wants to build their own car or participate in every aspect of the process (or ANY aspect of the process, for that matter).  But at the beginning, if you want an LM car you will have to make it happen - the community and customers are not invited out of courtesy, they are absolutely vital to Local Motors and to making Local cars happen.  

And the community, both local and virtual, knows this.  This drives them.  

In the future the format may change so that people who are less interested in the entire process can simply visit an LM micro-factory and pick up the car they love.  

For now, if you want to see the car you desire come to life - it&#039;s up to you (car enthusiasts) to make it happen.

Ariel 

aferreira@local-motors.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so exciting, Jeff.  Thank you for this post.  Local Motors is very much focused on fulfilling the desires of car ENTHUSIASTS by enabling them to participate in the design, engineering and build processes. As you mention, this creates ownership and vested interest in the outcome of each vehicle.  </p>
<p>The focus on enthusiasts is important, especially at the beginning as we begin to put cars on the roads.  </p>
<p>As Jimmy pointed out, not everyone wants to build their own car or participate in every aspect of the process (or ANY aspect of the process, for that matter).  But at the beginning, if you want an LM car you will have to make it happen &#8211; the community and customers are not invited out of courtesy, they are absolutely vital to Local Motors and to making Local cars happen.  </p>
<p>And the community, both local and virtual, knows this.  This drives them.  </p>
<p>In the future the format may change so that people who are less interested in the entire process can simply visit an LM micro-factory and pick up the car they love.  </p>
<p>For now, if you want to see the car you desire come to life &#8211; it&#8217;s up to you (car enthusiasts) to make it happen.</p>
<p>Ariel </p>
<p><a href="mailto:aferreira@local-motors.com">aferreira@local-motors.com</a></p>
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