Comments on: Product v. process journalism: The myth of perfection v. beta culture

By: Margaret Wente: “The blogosphere is dominated by men” | Josh Chandler's Blog

Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:11:17 +0000

[...] It’s the common thing, most male bloggers are quick to judge in order to be heard. We like to jump to conclusions, not put in the necessary time to research and then after all that quickly retract and correct our mistakes. It’s not ideal. It’s what Jeff Jarvis called “process journalism”. [...]

By: The rise of open source: Thoughts on TEDxNYED » Nieman Journalism Lab

The rise of open source: Thoughts on TEDxNYED » Nieman Journalism Lab — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:07:45 +0000

[...] is an echo, of course, of the argument Jarvis makes about journalism: journalism-as-a-process-not-a-product is an idea that is quickly solidifying into conventional wisdom among the meta-media set. But it [...]

By: I’ve Said Too Much » Communication is process is journalism

I’ve Said Too Much » Communication is process is journalism — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:10:54 +0000

[...] of us now that connected media is transforming journalism, turning it, as Jeff Jarvis says, from a product into a process. But in fact journalism has always been a process, and PR has always been a process as well. And [...]

By: Social Media Club : Nouveaux métiers du journalisme – le compte rendu : Social Media Club France

Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:59:53 +0000

[...] reprendre l’idée de Jeff Jarvis, à l’heure d’internet, l’information et donc les articles ne sont plus des [...]

By: Hoe internet journalistieke kernwaarden verandert « De nieuwe reporter

Hoe internet journalistieke kernwaarden verandert « De nieuwe reporter — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:34:11 +0000

[...] veranderen. Maar om een schot voor de boeg te doen: neem eens in aanmerking wat Jeff Jarvis ‘process journalism’ noemt, gecombineerd met de notie van (opnieuw) Dan Gillmor dat het publiek altijd meer weet dan [...]

By: Vervolg: over de toekomst van journalistiek onderwijs, en hoe internet journalistieke kernwaarden verandert

Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:12:16 +0000

[...] van karakter veranderen. Maar om een schot voor de boeg te doen: neem eens in aanmerking wat Jeff Jarvis ‘process journalism’ noemt, gecombineerd met de notie van (opnieuw) Dan Gillmor dat het publiek altijd meer weet dan de [...]

By: The London Weekly: some unanswered questions | Journalism.co.uk Editors' Blog

Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:42:09 +0000

[...] there you go. In Jarvian process journalism style, I will set up a Help Me Investigate group for sceptical people to share any findings. With a list [...]

By: On publishing, people, privacy and Pepsi « new media mentality

On publishing, people, privacy and Pepsi « new media mentality — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:32:47 +0000

[...] Citing your sources, i.e. the link economy, is even more important in today’s networked social environment (whether as a traditional news provider or an average person). If you try to pass of a lie as truth or somebody else’s work as your own, you will inevitably be found out. Information can travel very quickly, and while there is the risk of falsehoods spreading that Chris Heuer talked about (Safko, 17), I agree with his idea that being able to share ideas in progress is only a good thing. What he refers to as self-correcting blogging. What Jeff Jarvis calls process journalism. [...]

By: How University Vice President of Communications And Marketing Strategy Leadership Roles Are Likely To Change « Educational Marketing Group, Inc.’s Brand Manager’s Notebook

Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:50:56 +0000

[...] to the shortage of dedicated journalists. On June 7th, 2009, Jeff Jarvis of the blog Buzzmachine put together a thoughtful piece that I think is important to understand about how most news starts in the blogosphere and then migrates to the mainstream [...]

By: de.krautsource.com » Warum Journalisten sich einen neuen Beruf suchen sollten – oder zumindest mal ihre Stellenbeschreibung überarbeiten sollten

Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:07:24 +0000

[...] Seite zum Stream, außerdem den starken Drang, jungen Journalisten zur Selbstständigkeit zu raten. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/07/processjournalism/ http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/11/01/the-future-of-journalism-is-entrepreneurial/ [...]

By: In defense of CNN and process journalism | Write -30-

In defense of CNN and process journalism | Write -30- — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:09:14 +0000

[...] Jarvis lays out what should probably be the Golden Rule of process journalism in his discussion of perfection vs. beta culture: In short: We who publish must learn how to say what we don’t know at least as well as we say [...]

By: Seu blog possui audiência ou você construiu uma comunidade? « Charles Cadé Blog / Comunicação, tecnologia e cultura digital

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:23:11 +0000

[...] porque, como defente Jeff Jarvis, na internet, freqüentemente o material é publicado primeiro e editado posteriormente. A informação é complementada de acordo com os desdobramentos dos acontecimentos, num processo [...]

By: This week in media musings: Murdoch’s game of chicken, and a lesson in process journalism | Mark Coddington

Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:52 +0000

[...] has been the way it’s always done things. If we ever needed a case study in the advantages of process over product journalism, this is [...]

By: Medial Digital – Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0» Neu Social Web Zeitungszukunft » 5 Fehler von Printmedien beim Umgang mit Online-Kommentaren

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:34:08 +0000

[...] einen Beitrag nicht wie bisher mit der Veröffentlichung als abgeschlossen zu betrachten. Aber Journalismus im Netz ist immer weniger Ergebnis und immer mehr Prozess. Und damit ändern sich auch die Aufgaben von Journalisten. Sie werden auch zu Moderatoren. Positive [...]

By: Tynan on Tech » ZDnet vs Yahoo: When ‘process journalism’ tastes like processed cheese

Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:41:30 +0000

[...] where blogger/bloviators like Jeff Jarvis like to step in, puff themselves up and talk about what they call “process journalism.” You report a rumor or an unsubstantiated claim as soon as you can, then update it as more [...]

By: Process Journalism and Original Reporting « Oddly Together

Process Journalism and Original Reporting « Oddly Together — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:32:23 +0000

[...] In a June post, Michael Arrington refers to what TechCrunch does as “process journalism,” a concept he picked up from Jeff Jarvis. I consider Jeff to be a new media apologist and continuous writer of old media’s epitaph. Jeff’s wonderfully titled post: “Product v. process journalism: The myth of perfection v. beta culture.” [...]

By: Is the Web altering the ethics of reporting?

Is the Web altering the ethics of reporting? — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:34:56 +0000

[...] Explains Jeff Jarvis, a journalism professor at The City University of New York: “It’s a matter of timing, of the order of things, of the process of journalism. Newspaper people see their articles as finished products of their work. Bloggers see their posts as part of the process of learning.” [...]

By: Networks and the news process « The Future of Journalism

Networks and the news process « The Future of Journalism — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:15:00 +0000

[...] a Comment As the nature of news-making changes in the digital era—becoming more of a dynamic process than creating a static product, more fluid than fixed—we need to get a grasp on what all of this means for the two key players [...]

By: Is the Web altering the ethics of reporting? « Explorations in New Media

Is the Web altering the ethics of reporting? « Explorations in New Media — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:08:13 +0000

By: Social Media and Journalism — Oil & Vinegar or PB & J | MINIMUM FAILURE

Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:53:22 +0000

[...] http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/06/07/processjournalism/ [...]

By: When Falls the Coliseum » Stone age memes: Heraclitus and me in the blogosphere

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:09:33 +0000

[...] it journalism? Yes, half baked, but that sounds pejorative. Instead think of it as the raw materials that make for a truly robust, [...]

By: In defense of CNN and process journalism « -30- | Adventures at the end of journalism.

Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:42:06 +0000

By: ¿Matará el blog al periodismo? | TTI Blog

¿Matará el blog al periodismo? | TTI Blog — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:22:54 +0000

[...] embargo, el tema podría ir mucho más allá, porque nos estaríamos enfrentando a una nueva manera hacer (y entender) las noticias que iría en [...]

By: Internet bigotry – again « BuzzMachine

Internet bigotry – again « BuzzMachine — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:46:11 +0000

[...] This is the sort of internet bigotry that pops up in The Times like clockwork. [...]

By: Consacepo

Consacepo — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:13:27 +0000

Jeff, the old-timer journalist… I know your point, and I used to be upset about the decline of that profession when the Wordpress era started. But for the Wordpress journalist journalism is not solely an activity any more, but it is a business model, a form of media, a distribution platform and a lot more. Involving the reader in the creation process is not that bad after all – isn’t it what Web 2.0 should all be about?