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By: Robb Montgomery

Robb Montgomery — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:56:15 +0000

Jeff, your detour into the alleged influence over Connie’s fantasy legislation misses a larger point – and misses the news.

The real issue is that European publishers actually are uniting to revamp copyright law and these guys stand a lot better chance of it because of their culture and the fact that they have a real plan.

STORY:
bit.ly/hSBtl

The plan is to create a royalties distribution society (Full disclosure: I am a member of ASCAP and own a music publishing company) like ASCAP or BMI to collect and redistribute royalties to content creators.

Makes sense but I think that the only way to collect that fee would be to collect it from ISPs.

That’s the tricky part, no? Who and where is the toll booth?

By: Marc Cooper » Blog Archive » Death of the Newspaper — Chapter 657

Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:48:36 +0000

[...] column might have garnered about 30,000 readers. Way, way more, he says, than that blogger "guy" Jeff Jarvis whom, he imagines, might have a few dozen [...]

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:04:56 +0000

Wherever it comes from, she has access to Congress and is lobbying Congress.

By: Pete Kotz

Pete Kotz — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:16:05 +0000

I don’t know if I like her idea either, Jeff. But I can tell you as a former Clevelander that’s she’s a decent, honest woman who’s excessively weird about not abusing the inside access with her husband. I’m sure being married to a senator gives you access most of us don’t have. But I can attest that she’s a stand-up woman. Whatever we think of her idea, I got money that says it’s coming from her heart, not some darker sphere.

By: Journalistic narcissism | Media

Journalistic narcissism | Media — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:34:27 +0000

[...] with her public. Jay Rosen just tweeted his headline for Plain Dealer Connie Schultz’ return of spitball (below): “A blogger was mean to me so that means I’m right.” John [...]

By: Meilcour.fr » Les journalistes nous gonflent-ils ?

Meilcour.fr » Les journalistes nous gonflent-ils ? — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:07:29 +0000

[...] with her public. Jay Rosen just tweeted his headline for Plain Dealer Connie Schultz’ return of spitball (below): “A blogger was mean to me so that means I’m right.” John McQuaid tweeted [...]

By: Lost at the Plain Dealer « Law Dork, 2.0

Lost at the Plain Dealer « Law Dork, 2.0 — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:37:31 +0000

[...] Last week, Connie Schultz, whose work I greatly respect — particularly her strong work for equality — wrote a column pitching a newspaper lawyer’s proposal to change copyright law to limit the ability of blogs to take information from a newspaper’s Web site for a period of time — suggested is 24 hours — after publication. Jeff Jarvis, at BuzzMachine, responded in full force. [...]

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:52:42 +0000

I have an opinion, Rob. On my blog.

Please do comment on substance: issues and ideas. Your attacks have become, well, repetitive.

I’m not asking you to take your ball and go away, only your bat, the one you’ve hit me over the head with a few dozen times.

By: Robert Levine

Robert Levine — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:41:42 +0000

I’ll stop commenting altogether. But I’m not sure why you retain the exclusive right to call other people “dangerous.”

By: Tex Lovera

Tex Lovera — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:59:41 +0000

John-

How is Jeff “leeching” off of those who “create” news?

(Actually, “creating” news is part of the newspapers’ problem! Google “Bush National Guard Memo” or “Jayson Blair” for examples!!)

By: John

John — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:59:38 +0000

Jeff,
When you actually create some news instead of merely leech off those who do, maybe you’ll have a little more credibility. Otherwise, you’re just another leech.

By: John

John — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:54:54 +0000

Lighten up Jarvis. You can dish it out but can’t take it eh? You’re starting to sound like Sarah Palin

By: Contrasting the Perpendicular with the Backwards | the Open/Conceptual Studio

Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:24:36 +0000

[...] in stark contrast to a column I read yesterday by Connie Schultz at The Plain Dealer (via Jeff Jarvis). She argues that tightening copyright law is the way to save newspapers. Fine for her and her [...]

By: Journalistic narcissism « BuzzMachine

Journalistic narcissism « BuzzMachine — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:08:14 +0000

[...] with her public. Jay Rosen just tweeted his headline for Plain Dealer Connie Schultz’ return of spitball (below): “A blogger was mean to me so that means I’m right.” John [...]

By: Rodney Johnson

Rodney Johnson — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:26:01 +0000

The was a scene in the movie The Big Chill where Michaeal (and I forget the other characters name) are having a conversation. One of them states, “You know what, rationalization is better than sex.” The other one replies, “Come on, no way. There is nothing better than sex.” From which the reply came, “Have you ever tried to go a week without 2 or 3 rationalizations.”

From my position, when these issues surface, there is a whole lot of rationalizations that occur. To the vested party, they make a lot of sense because they’re emotionally attached to the issue and the outcome. To the unvested party, it appears simplistic.

Bottom line, Connie Schultz has access and she can rationalize a desired outcome. That is a dangerous DC combination.

What has occurred here is exactly what journalism is supposed to achieve. Disclose the facts…

By: Tansley - Addendum

Tansley - Addendum — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:23:57 +0000

I rather imagine the shovel-jawed mastadon made a lot of noise when it was sinking up to it’s neck in the tar pits at Rancho LaBrea, also…

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Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:03:01 +0000

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By: Andy Freeman

Andy Freeman — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:42:51 +0000

> However, you consistently undercut the value of what I do for a living.

Except that he doesn’t. He points out that you can’t make a good living doing certain things. He points out that it’s a good thing that you can’t copyright facts.

> I see no reason why I can’t defend the value of what I do for a living.

No one said that you can’t. However, your right to defend them doesn’t mean that other people can’t point out that they’re wrong.

There is no “public good” in letting the first reporter to the hospital with enough money own the story. There’s no public good in letting TMZ control whether someone else can say “TMZ says ….”.

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:10:19 +0000

Wow this is some great BETA journalism! Well done everyone!

By: Laid Off Too

Laid Off Too — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:35:35 +0000

Mr. Levine, I don’t have a media background. I’m in no way in 100% agreement with Mr. Jarvis on Google Streetwise and other issues.
I’ve been reading this blog for 3 months. Everytime I’ve seen your name, I’ve known before reading your first comment in a thread it will be anti-Jarvis. In fact, if Mr Jarvis were to say Saturday is the 4th of July, I’d expect you to disagree. You then follow up with a second comment trying to clarify your position.
I find it ironic that in the ‘Kill the Lawyers’ comments you were upset people were copying your material, which would imply you’re a good writer, but your comments would indicate you’re a poor writer for lack of clarity.
I empathize with your position. We all do. But we don’t need you to ‘guard the guard’. If we don’t like Mr Jarvis’ blog, we’ll go elsewhere.
Maybe I’m missing it, but I don’t see how this post undercuts the value of what you do for a living. I believe Mr Jarvis is trying to find ways to make your industry more credible.
Please make your future objections more neutral and constructive in nature.

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:23:43 +0000

Rob,
You don’t do that by attacking and I’m quite serious. Once more and that’s it.

By: Rob Levine

Rob Levine — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:56:08 +0000

Jeff, my questions to you are not personal at all. I simply asked you some questions about your role in the public sphere. You do the same to other people all the time.

Personally, I happen to like you, and I think your blog is really interesting. However, you consistently undercut the value of what I do for a living. I see no reason why I can’t defend the value of what I do for a living.

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:32:42 +0000

Rob,
I’m not MARRIED to a SENATOR.
Jeesh, man, I don’t know what I ever did to you but your efforts at personal attack are getting pathetic.
Talk about the issues or I will treat you like every other troll. I’ve quite had it.
I have my own rules of collegiality here.

By: Rob Levine

Rob Levine — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:06:39 +0000

What was that Michael Jackson song about the man in the mirror . . .

Don’t you ALSO have exceptional access? One of your most recent posts was about asking a question of the CEO of Google at the “Aspen Ideas Festival,” an opportunity that most working journalists do not have. Were you there as a journalist? If so did you ask any tough questions? If not, in what capacity were you there? And if you were pushing your agenda, what benefits did going to Aspen bring you, and it?

Quis custodiet ipsos consultes?

By: Walter Abbott

Walter Abbott — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:34:57 +0000

Jeff, this whole damn debate is a trial lawyer thing. They’re the ones that started it and are keeping it going. They see it as a new field of litigation to cultivate.

Steve Brill in an interview brought up the names of bigfoot DC lawyers Ted Olsen and David Bois.
http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/my-chat-with-steve-brill-about-charging-readers-for-news-online/

Two weeks earlier, there was this piece in the WaPo.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/15/AR2009051503000.html

That ain’t coincidence. It’s enemy action and the enemy is the litigation industry. They’ve found what they perceive as an injured party and they want to exploit it.