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By: Weblog » Blog Archive » The Future Newsroom: Lean, Open and Social Media-Savvy

Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:47:03 +0000

[...] writer with a broadband connection can reach the same audience. As new media advocate Jeff Jarvis wrote on his blog “I’m seeing that it’s possible for someone to come along with relatively little investment [...]

By: Onward State Revisited « InTech@McDaniel

Onward State Revisited « InTech@McDaniel — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:05:08 +0000

[...] in corporate newsrooms. Ferenstein gives us more to mull over with a reference to the blog post It ain’t over by Jeff Jarvis (City University of New York’s Graduate School of Journalism), that starts out [...]

By: The Future Newsroom: Lean, Open, and Social Media-Savvy

The Future Newsroom: Lean, Open, and Social Media-Savvy — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:31:29 +0000

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By: Ameret Budihas

Ameret Budihas — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:33:26 +0000

I’ve been in the real estate/legal field for 20+ years. I am currently trying to sell my 3rd home in a town that supposedly is in the top 10 stablest markets in the country-Hinesville, GA. However, I realized that my real estate agent (whom I worked for two years) is unable to comment on many of the pluses and minuses of living in each neighborhood. Hinesville has a bad reputation for its schools, however after moving to Kansas a few months ago and getting my kids registered for school they seem to be a head of what is being taught here in KS. We are a military family and yes move a lot. Each new duty station comes with a lot of word of mouth about schools, shopping, neighborhoods, etc. from other military families that have lived there.

My agent is good and honest, at least in my opinion, however is a little hampered by non-discriminatory laws. That is a good thing, but doesn’t always get the full story out about a neighborhood. Maybe blogging would help, maybe not. I am sure there are better ways to buy and sell homes, but I haven’t figured it out yet, especially from 4 or 10 states away from the actual house.

I’m just getting into this blog discussion thing and not sure what I am doing, but am willing to take the risk and put it out there to see what comes back.

By: MediaBlog » Wat u en mij opviel in de media

MediaBlog » Wat u en mij opviel in de media — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:59:56 +0000

[...] werkelijkheid, zegt Jeff Jarvis, is erger. In Amerika ging bij kranten in 2000 nog 10 miljard dollar om in rubrieksadvertenties. [...]

By: James H

James H — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:04:19 +0000

Jeff:

Even if you can see every property in the area with asking prices on Google, I would argue a Realtor is still useful. Presumably, the Realtor is a skilled negotiator who can obtain a better price for you on a home. Also, the Realtor presumably brings to bear a great deal of experience in house buying and selling. I’m thinking partly in the process — recording deeds, title searching, etc., etc. — but also in the sorts of things one should look for in a home such as structural defects and so forth.

By: Using Craigslist to Find a Job | BNET Intercom | BNET

Using Craigslist to Find a Job | BNET Intercom | BNET — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:14:51 +0000

[...] often it costs nothing to post an ad. But there is a reason this ugly site helped to turn the $10 billion newspaper classifieds business into a $100 million dollar online operation. The site is brutally efficient and it connects you with the broadest array of local employment [...]

By: Andy Freeman

Andy Freeman — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:07:41 +0000

> Moving away from the large publisher-centric approach seems to be a good first step, but still… how do they monetize? Targeted advertising?

It is unlikely that will be a one-size fits all for news monetization.

In some cases, good old subscriptions will work. (I suspect that many of these will follow a freemium model.) In others, targetted advertising will dominate. (And, there’s no law saying that you can’t do both.) In still others, untargetted advertising will dominate, with a smattering of product placement. (I’m thinking of “Paris Hilton” news.)

Some news publications will be a benefit of some organization, so they’ll be supported however said organization supports itself.

By: Andy Scheurer

Andy Scheurer — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:34:48 +0000

Are you suggesting that small, collaborative (specialized?) groups are the future of news organizations? Moving away from the large publisher-centric approach seems to be a good first step, but still… how do they monetize? Targeted advertising?

By: Howard Owens

Howard Owens — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:05:37 +0000

I have.

By: Stan Spire

Stan Spire — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:42:01 +0000

Correction: Make that your first paragraph, third sentence.

My journalism education trained me “good.”

Stan

By: Stan Spire

Stan Spire — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:29:45 +0000

Take a look at your first sentence: “…since it’s 2000 high…”

“It’s” is a contraction of “it is” or “it has.” “Its” is the spelling for the possessive pronoun.

See http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000227.htm .

Obviously you are one of those commie hippie college professors responsible for lowering both English usage and moral standards.

Stan

stanspire.blogspot.com

By: Eric Reasons

Eric Reasons — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:22:21 +0000

The big question for me is, if those billions of dollars are “left in the pockets of those doing the transactions”, what are they doing with it?

They aren’t investing, they aren’t spending on cars or homes. I think right now we’re pretty much shoring up our losses from the credit/housing bubble, saving and paying down our debt. The flipside is that many people are losing work as well, so maybe we’re just hanging on.

This deflation is working counter to all the efforts by governments and corporations alike to re-inflate traditional bubbles. The question is to determine whether we can take advantage of these billion left in our pockets and put it to good use, or whether they will be usurped to put failing business models on life support until they collapse entirely, leaving us nothing much in the end.

http://blog.ericreasons.com/2009/07/innovative-deflation.html

By: Terry Heaton

Terry Heaton — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:30:28 +0000

Noteworthy are various attempts to move another newspaper monopoly to the Web – Legal Ads. Obits are also being disrupted (because they’re SO friggin expensive).

By: Digitale medier, koncepter & livet som sådan – Evig nådesløs konkurrence

Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:34:34 +0000

[...] er bag dem, kan de ifølge mediekommentatoren Jeff Jarvis godt tro om igen. Der er stadigvæk massevis af hård forandring, vi mangler at se endnu, og som ganske givet vil komme til at koste rigtig mange penge og virksomheder deres [...]

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:30:30 +0000

heh. Have you filled out our NewBizNews questionnaire?

By: Web Media Daily – July 10, 2009 | Reinventing Yourself...

Web Media Daily – July 10, 2009 | Reinventing Yourself... — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:43:46 +0000

[...] It ain’t over… BuzzMachine [...]

By: Howard Owens

Howard Owens — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:37:57 +0000

“In content, I’m seeing that it’s possible for someone to come along with relatively little investment and a much smaller staff that operates more collaboratively to compete with the big, expensive traditional newsroom at low cost.”

You mean, like The Batavian?

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:20:44 +0000

Rob,
You’re right, of course. I’m paraphrasing the usual formula, which blames craigslist. In any calculation, billions and billions were left in the pockets of those doing the transactions rather than advertising middlemen that trend will only continue, I”m sure you’ll agree.

By: Brandon Mendelson

Brandon Mendelson — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:46:46 +0000

I agree. I’m just disappointed every time I talk to my friends in the newsroom that no one is talking about changing anything. It’s like talking to the walking dead.

By: steve

steve — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:38:28 +0000

not sure anyone HERE really cares, but (since mr. jarvis mentioned fsi’s)valassis is attempting to sue its way to profitability by going after news corp.

the first (of three) valassis v. news suits is underway in downtown detroit.

valassis seems to have bit off more than it could chew by overpaying for junkmailer extraordinaire advo (sound familiar?) instead of bringing their core business into the future. now they hope they can get news to bail their lame ass out of the mess they find themselves in.

By: Eric Tyson

Eric Tyson — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:38:09 +0000

Jeff: You say:

“Look at the newly enhanced Google real-estate search. It’s awesome: useful, fast, informative, entertaining. Put in an address, browse all the homes for sale around. Who needs a newspaper? Who needs a real-estate agent?”

Google is tapping Realtors MLS service for homes for sale listings. Since we’ve had cars to drive around in, it’s never been hard to find homes for sale in a neighborhood so Google isn’t yet changing the home buying process through their search which is hardly unique. The mapping feature has been available elsewhere for years on popular sites like Realtor.com.

- Eric Tyson
Co-author of Home Buying for Dummies (Wiley)

By: Fred H Schlegel

Fred H Schlegel — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:36:07 +0000

Spines are tingling. I still remember when our assistants (or secretaries) became a thing of the past for most of us due to computerization. In addition to the threat of freely flowing information, any commission that depends on complexity or confusion to control transactions should be shaking. Standardize the transaction and even lawyers can become unnecessary. Course its going to take a bunch of imagination to come up with new jobs to replace the ones cut. Efficiency won’t matter if we’re all shaking tin cups on the street corner.

By: Rob K

Rob K — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:32:27 +0000

fixing typo:

It can be, but not when you’re defending every last nickel of print revenue, nor when you’re willing to go online, but only though a generation 1 model like Monster or HotJobs (which whom most of the newspapers have partnered).

By: Rob K

Rob K — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:11:03 +0000

Jeff

I love your blog, but your math doesn’t stand up on this one.
Newspapers lost the $10B of revenue, but they lost it to generation 1 Internet companies like Monster and CareerBuilder. Those 2, plus HotJobs, Dice, and other niche generation 1 job boards do about $2B of revenue in the US.

It is those companies (plus whatever was left with newspapers) who are getting killed by Craigslist and LinkedIn.

I also agree that the entire classified model of newspapers needs to be re-thought. It can be, but not when you’re defending every last nickel of print revenue, nor when you’re willing to go online, but only though a generation 1 model like Monster or HotJobs (which whom most of the newspapers).