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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Phill Dolby &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism 2.0: three key transitions for journalists</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-407636</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill Dolby &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism 2.0: three key transitions for journalists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] COLLABORATION is here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Phill Dolby &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism 2.0: a reporter&#8217;s changing role</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-407626</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill Dolby &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism 2.0: a reporter&#8217;s changing role</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Indeed the Haitian earthquake was possibly the first major disaster to illustrate the power and collective sway of what many are calling ‘citizen journalism’, and revealed a burgeoning new trend quite remarkably changing the media industry – collaboration. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Indeed the Haitian earthquake was possibly the first major disaster to illustrate the power and collective sway of what many are calling ‘citizen journalism’, and revealed a burgeoning new trend quite remarkably changing the media industry – collaboration. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Medial Digital &#8211; Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0&#187; Linktipps Neu &#187; Linktipps zum Wochenstart (23)</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-400532</link>
		<dc:creator>Medial Digital &#8211; Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0&#187; Linktipps Neu &#187; Linktipps zum Wochenstart (23)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Was kostet Qualitätsjournalismus? Das Nieman Journalism Lab nimmt den Fall eines auf 400.000 Dollar Gesamtkosten geschätzten Aufmachers im New York Times Magazine zum Anlass, einige der teuersten Posten im Journalismus zu benennen. Die NYT bezahlte für ihren Magazinaufmacher über einen Euthanasie-Skandal nach Hurrican Katrina übrigens keinen Cent &#8211; die NonProfit-Organisation ProPublica übernahm die Finanzierung. Es ist nicht das erste Mal, dass die NYT einen spendenfinanzierten Beitrag verwendet und dafür im Gegenzug auf Exklusivrechte verzichtet. Für Jeff Jarvis liegt in dieser Form von Profit/Non-Profit-Kollaboration ohnehin die journalistisch.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Was kostet Qualitätsjournalismus? Das Nieman Journalism Lab nimmt den Fall eines auf 400.000 Dollar Gesamtkosten geschätzten Aufmachers im New York Times Magazine zum Anlass, einige der teuersten Posten im Journalismus zu benennen. Die NYT bezahlte für ihren Magazinaufmacher über einen Euthanasie-Skandal nach Hurrican Katrina übrigens keinen Cent &#8211; die NonProfit-Organisation ProPublica übernahm die Finanzierung. Es ist nicht das erste Mal, dass die NYT einen spendenfinanzierten Beitrag verwendet und dafür im Gegenzug auf Exklusivrechte verzichtet. Für Jeff Jarvis liegt in dieser Form von Profit/Non-Profit-Kollaboration ohnehin die journalistisch&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: REDACCIONES&#8230; ¿QUÉ REDACCIONES? &#8211; Fuente: Periodista Digital &#171; Lo llaman comunicación</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398842</link>
		<dc:creator>REDACCIONES&#8230; ¿QUÉ REDACCIONES? &#8211; Fuente: Periodista Digital &#171; Lo llaman comunicación</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] En su blog BuzzMachine, que traduce y reproduce233grados.com, Jarvis explica que el prestigioso diario estadounidense está aceptando artículos gratis o respaldando a periodistas en busca de financiación, lo que &#8220;se está percibiendo como caridad: darle a The Times regalos, directa o indirectamente, para producir periodismo en sus páginas, físicas o digitales&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] En su blog BuzzMachine, que traduce y reproduce233grados.com, Jarvis explica que el prestigioso diario estadounidense está aceptando artículos gratis o respaldando a periodistas en busca de financiación, lo que &#8220;se está percibiendo como caridad: darle a The Times regalos, directa o indirectamente, para producir periodismo en sus páginas, físicas o digitales&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guardian column: Charity v. collaboration &#171; BuzzMachine</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398675</link>
		<dc:creator>Guardian column: Charity v. collaboration &#171; BuzzMachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Guardian column this week expands on an idea I discussed here, about viewing charity to news organizations as collaboration in the news ecosystem. The kicker: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How (and why) to replace the AP &#171; BuzzMachine</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398482</link>
		<dc:creator>How (and why) to replace the AP &#171; BuzzMachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have the answer or that there is one. Global Post is one try. There may be a need for support from charitable sources (the subject of my Monday Guardian column, which I&#8217;ll link to later). The AP and large, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have the answer or that there is one. Global Post is one try. There may be a need for support from charitable sources (the subject of my Monday Guardian column, which I&#8217;ll link to later). The AP and large, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hydraulic Valves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hydraulic Valves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shared Items &#8211; July 21, 2009 &#124; disruptive by nature</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398249</link>
		<dc:creator>Shared Items &#8211; July 21, 2009 &#124; disruptive by nature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Digidave</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398239</link>
		<dc:creator>Digidave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the founder of Spot.Us (and an old friend/colleague of Jarvis) I am bias. But I have to agree with his assesment.

None of this is about charity to the Times - it is about figuring out how to make journalism more participatory. But doing so means the public is going to get involved.

Spot.Us looks a lot like charity - because people are donating to journalism, but that is just a very basic means for people to get involved in journalism. Some people don&#039;t have time to do the digging themselves so to get involved they can donate $10 to help pay for somebody that can do the digging.

Meanwhile others will want to get involved by donating time (not money). Spot.Us is looking into ways to organize those kinds of donations too.

Essentially: Journalism needs collaboration - but that means journalism needs an engine that can organize those collaborations. The easiest types of collaboration to organize at first, I believe, are financial donations - since they are quick and nobody can argue at the merit/use of money.

But how else can the public get involved?

That&#039;s where chin scratching comes in........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the founder of Spot.Us (and an old friend/colleague of Jarvis) I am bias. But I have to agree with his assesment.</p>
<p>None of this is about charity to the Times &#8211; it is about figuring out how to make journalism more participatory. But doing so means the public is going to get involved.</p>
<p>Spot.Us looks a lot like charity &#8211; because people are donating to journalism, but that is just a very basic means for people to get involved in journalism. Some people don&#8217;t have time to do the digging themselves so to get involved they can donate $10 to help pay for somebody that can do the digging.</p>
<p>Meanwhile others will want to get involved by donating time (not money). Spot.Us is looking into ways to organize those kinds of donations too.</p>
<p>Essentially: Journalism needs collaboration &#8211; but that means journalism needs an engine that can organize those collaborations. The easiest types of collaboration to organize at first, I believe, are financial donations &#8211; since they are quick and nobody can argue at the merit/use of money.</p>
<p>But how else can the public get involved?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where chin scratching comes in&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Tytls.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The future of journalism: Will journalists be paying out of their own pockets?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398237</link>
		<dc:creator>Tytls.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The future of journalism: Will journalists be paying out of their own pockets?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis calls this a necessary  “collaboration” in the new media ecosystem. His argument is that this is not very [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-07-20 &#124; burningCat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398195</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-07-20 &#124; burningCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-07-19 &#171; Glenna DeRoy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398189</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-07-19 &#171; Glenna DeRoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charity or collaboration? « BuzzMachine (tags: businessmodels onlinejournalism workflow web) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The future of journalism: Will journalists be paying out of their own pockets? &#124; Online Journalism Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398185</link>
		<dc:creator>The future of journalism: Will journalists be paying out of their own pockets? &#124; Online Journalism Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis calls this a necessary  “collaboration” in the new media ecosystem. His argument is that this is not very [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Wyman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/07/19/charity-or-collaboration/#comment-398174</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the creation of a larger ecosystem&quot;... In such an ecosystem, various roles need to performed. The Times could excel at the editorial role (selection and quality control) and on providing a platform for distributing the news.

The Times should consider a new corporate motto: &quot;To organize the news and make it universally accessible.&quot; That&#039;s WGWD... This is simply a twist on the existing motto: &quot;All The News That&#039;s Fit To Print.&quot; Rather than just printing the news that Times writers have produced, a New York Times built for today&#039;s world would really seek to print&quot; *all* the news that is *fit* to print and it would seek to make that news universally accessible.

I&#039;m not arguing that the Times should simply become a mindless aggregator of news in the manner of the various algorithm based systems like DayLife or the offerings of major search providers who seek to publish or link to &quot;All the news there is...&quot; -- no matter what its quality. Rather, a new Times would focus on selecting from the myriad of sources of good journalism, on training journalists, on setting standards, assigning stories, etc. Like an aggregator, the new Times would seek to provide a comprehensive news experience that would satisfy the basic news needs of virtually anyone in at least the US. Even hyperlocal news from North Dakota should fit in a new Times -- if the local North Dakotan news bureau produces content that meets the editorial standards established by the Times. 

The key market value of the New York Times is Its reputation -- built on the quality of its editorial staff and its ability to select high quality journalists. However, in an Internet world, the Times can&#039;t hope to cover any but the most important stories with the tiny staff that it has. If it can learn to apply its editing and news organizing skills to a broader community, it should be able to attract a vastly larger and more appreciative audience -- and then monetize that audience.

bob wyman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the creation of a larger ecosystem&#8221;&#8230; In such an ecosystem, various roles need to performed. The Times could excel at the editorial role (selection and quality control) and on providing a platform for distributing the news.</p>
<p>The Times should consider a new corporate motto: &#8220;To organize the news and make it universally accessible.&#8221; That&#8217;s WGWD&#8230; This is simply a twist on the existing motto: &#8220;All The News That&#8217;s Fit To Print.&#8221; Rather than just printing the news that Times writers have produced, a New York Times built for today&#8217;s world would really seek to print&#8221; *all* the news that is *fit* to print and it would seek to make that news universally accessible.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not arguing that the Times should simply become a mindless aggregator of news in the manner of the various algorithm based systems like DayLife or the offerings of major search providers who seek to publish or link to &#8220;All the news there is&#8230;&#8221; &#8212; no matter what its quality. Rather, a new Times would focus on selecting from the myriad of sources of good journalism, on training journalists, on setting standards, assigning stories, etc. Like an aggregator, the new Times would seek to provide a comprehensive news experience that would satisfy the basic news needs of virtually anyone in at least the US. Even hyperlocal news from North Dakota should fit in a new Times &#8212; if the local North Dakotan news bureau produces content that meets the editorial standards established by the Times. </p>
<p>The key market value of the New York Times is Its reputation &#8212; built on the quality of its editorial staff and its ability to select high quality journalists. However, in an Internet world, the Times can&#8217;t hope to cover any but the most important stories with the tiny staff that it has. If it can learn to apply its editing and news organizing skills to a broader community, it should be able to attract a vastly larger and more appreciative audience &#8212; and then monetize that audience.</p>
<p>bob wyman</p>
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		<title>By: Web Media Weekend &#8211; July 18, 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Media Weekend &#8211; July 18, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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