Comments on: What crisis? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/ by Jeff Jarvis Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:26:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Bizzmodels.com » Blog Archive » Giving up on the news business http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-403306 Bizzmodels.com » Blog Archive » Giving up on the news business Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:03:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-403306 [...] not and certainly need not be the case. I disagree with Downie and Schudson’s key assumption: There is no crisis. When you start there, you don’t just reconstruct the past of journalism but see the [...] [...] not and certainly need not be the case. I disagree with Downie and Schudson’s key assumption: There is no crisis. When you start there, you don’t just reconstruct the past of journalism but see the [...]

]]> By: Giving up on the news business « BuzzMachine « Forced to Pay Attention http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-403270 Giving up on the news business « BuzzMachine « Forced to Pay Attention Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:22:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-403270 [...] is not and certainly need not be the case. I disagree with Downie and Schudson’s key assumption: There is no crisis. When you start there, you don’t just reconstruct the past of journalism but see the [...] [...] is not and certainly need not be the case. I disagree with Downie and Schudson’s key assumption: There is no crisis. When you start there, you don’t just reconstruct the past of journalism but see the [...]

]]> By: Giving up on the news business « BuzzMachine http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-403262 Giving up on the news business « BuzzMachine Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:58:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-403262 [...] not and certainly need not be the case. I disagree with Downie and Schudson’s key assumption: There is no crisis. When you start there, you don’t just reconstruct the past of journalism but see the [...] [...] not and certainly need not be the case. I disagree with Downie and Schudson’s key assumption: There is no crisis. When you start there, you don’t just reconstruct the past of journalism but see the [...]

]]> By: Assessing the Future of Journalism « brandon fried http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401621 Assessing the Future of Journalism « brandon fried Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:38:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401621 [...] journalist and media expert Jeff Jarvis recently asked the industry, “What crisis?” What was all the fuss and negativity [...] [...] journalist and media expert Jeff Jarvis recently asked the industry, “What crisis?” What was all the fuss and negativity [...]

]]> By: Future models for news…part 2 « Samantha http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401591 Future models for news…part 2 « Samantha Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:00:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401591 [...] Re: pay walls and links via buzzmachine [...] [...] Re: pay walls and links via buzzmachine [...]

]]> By: Current trends in new news models « Furture of News http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401585 Current trends in new news models « Furture of News Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:56:22 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401585 [...] to end this report I want to stress Jeff Jarvis’ comments in his blog post What Crisis. In the post Jarvis writes “So if we’re looking for an original sin in this saga, I’ll [...] [...] to end this report I want to stress Jeff Jarvis’ comments in his blog post What Crisis. In the post Jarvis writes “So if we’re looking for an original sin in this saga, I’ll [...]

]]> By: 09.22.09. « journalism. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401584 09.22.09. « journalism. Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:43:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401584 [...] this “web 2.0,” in a utilitarian manner. As Jeff Jarvis writes in his article “What Crisis?” [...] [...] this “web 2.0,” in a utilitarian manner. As Jeff Jarvis writes in his article “What Crisis?” [...]

]]> By: Saving Journalism « Bill Bowman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401572 Saving Journalism « Bill Bowman Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:44:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401572 [...] suggested by Jarvis, with streamlined processes. He detailed this optimistic look in his article, What Crisis? He describes how audiences for content is growing along with the two way innovation. This [...] [...] suggested by Jarvis, with streamlined processes. He detailed this optimistic look in his article, What Crisis? He describes how audiences for content is growing along with the two way innovation. This [...]

]]> By: Consulting, Part II: Analyzing news models « The Future of Journalism http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401459 Consulting, Part II: Analyzing news models « The Future of Journalism Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:28:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401459 [...] on this tour is NewsInnovation.com. Poke around the site for ideas. Then see Jeff Jarvis’ “What crisis?” post, and related posts on new business models (more here). Moving on: Paul Bradshaw’s [...] [...] on this tour is NewsInnovation.com. Poke around the site for ideas. Then see Jeff Jarvis’ “What crisis?” post, and related posts on new business models (more here). Moving on: Paul Bradshaw’s [...]

]]> By: Revolutions in the media economy (2) – the changing structure of information | David Campbell -- Photography, Multimedia, Politics http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401387 Revolutions in the media economy (2) – the changing structure of information | David Campbell -- Photography, Multimedia, Politics Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:22:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401387 [...] current problems in the media economy, as my previous post detailed, but Jeff Jarvis is right – if we start from the assumption that there is a crisis for all concerned we will ask the wrong quest..., miss the great opportunities, and head off in the wrong [...] [...] current problems in the media economy, as my previous post detailed, but Jeff Jarvis is right – if we start from the assumption that there is a crisis for all concerned we will ask the wrong quest…, miss the great opportunities, and head off in the wrong [...]

]]> By: links for 2009-09-12 « Glenna DeRoy http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401285 links for 2009-09-12 « Glenna DeRoy Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:47:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401285 [...] What crisis? « BuzzMachine (tags: onlinejournalism agreed workflow businessmodels) [...] [...] What crisis? « BuzzMachine (tags: onlinejournalism agreed workflow businessmodels) [...]

]]> By: David Eaves http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401201 David Eaves Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:43:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401201 Great piece Jeff - I wish we had you up here so your could tackle some of the conservative minds who believe that the decline of traditional media w<a href="http://eaves.ca/2009/09/10/the-eaves-valpy-debate/" rel="nofollow">ill destroy social cohesion and end democracy</a>. Sigh. Great piece Jeff – I wish we had you up here so your could tackle some of the conservative minds who believe that the decline of traditional media will destroy social cohesion and end democracy. Sigh.

]]> By: This week in media musings: Dividing and conquering, and two news models | Mark Coddington http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401038 This week in media musings: Dividing and conquering, and two news models | Mark Coddington Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:04:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401038 [...] graphs on historical advertising revenues for you. If you need some cheering up after that post, Jeff Jarvis has some reassuring reasons for optimism about the future of journalism. (Sorry, newspapers, [...] [...] graphs on historical advertising revenues for you. If you need some cheering up after that post, Jeff Jarvis has some reassuring reasons for optimism about the future of journalism. (Sorry, newspapers, [...]

]]> By: Was auf die Augen « Auf die Augen http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-401015 Was auf die Augen « Auf die Augen Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:51:22 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-401015 [...] http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/ [...] [...] http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/ [...]

]]> By: “Google Bigotry,” Corporate-Bashing & Human Envy — Technology Liberation Front http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400922 “Google Bigotry,” Corporate-Bashing & Human Envy — Technology Liberation Front Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:36:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400922 [...] newspaper people will use their last drops of ink to complain about Google’s success and try to blame it for their own failures rather than changing their own businesses. …  It’s not just that they dislike the [...] [...] newspaper people will use their last drops of ink to complain about Google’s success and try to blame it for their own failures rather than changing their own businesses. …  It’s not just that they dislike the [...]

]]> By: Medial Digital – Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0» Linktipps Neu » Linktipps zum Wochenstart (24) http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400916 Medial Digital – Medien, digitale Medien, Medienwandel, Journalismus, Internet, soziales Internet, Social Web, Web 2.0» Linktipps Neu » Linktipps zum Wochenstart (24) Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:44:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400916 [...] What crisis? [...] [...] What crisis? [...]

]]> By: Google bigotry « BuzzMachine http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400852 Google bigotry « BuzzMachine Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:25:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400852 [...] people will use their last drops of ink to complain about Google’s success and try to blame it for their own failures rather than changing their own [...] [...] people will use their last drops of ink to complain about Google’s success and try to blame it for their own failures rather than changing their own [...]

]]> By: Pat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400662 Pat Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:30:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400662 Thanks for sharing your experience, Laid Off Too. I don't work for a newspaper, but I am taking Jeff's advice while building my hyperlocal website www.WikiCity.com which serves 22K+ communities across the U.S. Thanks for sharing your experience, Laid Off Too. I don’t work for a newspaper, but I am taking Jeff’s advice while building my hyperlocal website http://www.WikiCity.com which serves 22K+ communities across the U.S.

]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400654 Andy Freeman Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:08:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400654 > you have no idea what it is like to have something one has worked hard on abstracted as “content.” What is an acceptable abstract/generic name? Yes, we need a non-specific name. We call our stuff "code". > you have no idea what it is like to have something one has worked hard on abstracted as “content.”

What is an acceptable abstract/generic name? Yes, we need a non-specific name.

We call our stuff “code”.

]]> By: Julian F. Müller http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400649 Julian F. Müller Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:09:49 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400649 Thanks very much - If this talk is as great as your talk in the Google Headquarters I will index it on www.getdocued.net. I guess that's the "link economy" you are talking about. ^^ Thanks very much – If this talk is as great as your talk in the Google Headquarters I will index it on http://www.getdocued.net. I guess that’s the “link economy” you are talking about. ^^

]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400641 Andy Freeman Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:34:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400641 > Where once we “agreed on the facts but disputed their interpretation”, in a world where some folk watch Fox and others watch MSNBC, we will never again agree on the facts. Let me suggest that "we" never agreed. What has changed is that the disagreement is easier to see. FWIW, this "we used to all agree" stuff is part of why journalists are in such low repute. "we" didn't agree - you had a stranglehold. When you call that the good old days, folks who were strangled then will take offense. If you'd like, it's similar to telling African Americans how great cotton plantations were. > Where once we “agreed on the facts but disputed their interpretation”, in a world where some folk watch Fox and others watch MSNBC, we will never again agree on the facts.

Let me suggest that “we” never agreed.

What has changed is that the disagreement is easier to see.

FWIW, this “we used to all agree” stuff is part of why journalists are in such low repute. “we” didn’t agree – you had a stranglehold. When you call that the good old days, folks who were strangled then will take offense.

If you’d like, it’s similar to telling African Americans how great cotton plantations were.

]]> By: cliff barney http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400638 cliff barney Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:45:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400638 i think the change is going to happen thousands at a time - among the thousands of journalists who have been laid off in the past couple of years, and the thousands more coming out of j-schools. however one way to win over the technical laggards would be to quit calling what they produce "content." you have no idea what it is like to have something one has worked hard on abstracted as "content." i think the change is going to happen thousands at a time – among the thousands of journalists who have been laid off in the past couple of years, and the thousands more coming out of j-schools.

however one way to win over the technical laggards would be to quit calling what they produce “content.” you have no idea what it is like to have something one has worked hard on abstracted as “content.”

]]> By: Laid Off Too http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400636 Laid Off Too Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:48:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400636 Pat, as you may have guessed by my alias, I've been there, but in a different industry. What helped me through it was realizing there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Either the newspaper is going to fold, or a new strategy will make it solvent. And if the light turns out to be a freight train, it will arrive quickly and be over with soon. I can honestly say being laid off was the best thing to happen to me career wise and personally. I'm much happier in a new environment. If you are part of a newspaper, and you want to remain in media of some kind, I suggest you look for the opportunities as per Mr Jarvis' post. While it will be painful getting there, it will be worth it. Pat, as you may have guessed by my alias, I’ve been there, but in a different industry. What helped me through it was realizing there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Either the newspaper is going to fold, or a new strategy will make it solvent. And if the light turns out to be a freight train, it will arrive quickly and be over with soon.
I can honestly say being laid off was the best thing to happen to me career wise and personally. I’m much happier in a new environment.
If you are part of a newspaper, and you want to remain in media of some kind, I suggest you look for the opportunities as per Mr Jarvis’ post. While it will be painful getting there, it will be worth it.

]]> By: Pat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400632 Pat Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:46:49 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400632 Love your optimism, Jeff, but I suppose the condition is relative to where you sit... For example, if you're a newspaper trying to escape your fixed legacy costs & you've experienced a 40% drop in revenue over the past 24 months, it may begin to feel like a crisis. What do you think? Love your optimism, Jeff, but I suppose the condition is relative to where you sit… For example, if you’re a newspaper trying to escape your fixed legacy costs & you’ve experienced a 40% drop in revenue over the past 24 months, it may begin to feel like a crisis. What do you think?

]]> By: Complex Diamond » Blog Archive » Unfettered Access To Truth http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/08/31/what-crisis/#comment-400628 Complex Diamond » Blog Archive » Unfettered Access To Truth Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:31:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5183#comment-400628 [...] is in jeopardy, is an argument used by the struggling traditional news media and best explained by Jeff Jarvis. Freedom of press is a core component of democracy and the thought of losing it would scare most of [...] [...] is in jeopardy, is an argument used by the struggling traditional news media and best explained by Jeff Jarvis. Freedom of press is a core component of democracy and the thought of losing it would scare most of [...]

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