Comments on: Content farms v. curating farmers http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:40:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Google reacciona contra las granjas de contenido. ¿Duelo en (SE)O.K Corral? | Javier de Vega | Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-460986 Google reacciona contra las granjas de contenido. ¿Duelo en (SE)O.K Corral? | Javier de Vega | Blog Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:21:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-460986 [...] funciona la manivela para que Demand Media genere 4.000 piezas de contenido cada día? Lo explica el genial Jeff Jarvis tras una conversación con el CEO de Demand Media: Kydd says 11 community members contribute to each article by fulfilling the discreet functions [...] [...] funciona la manivela para que Demand Media genere 4.000 piezas de contenido cada día? Lo explica el genial Jeff Jarvis tras una conversación con el CEO de Demand Media: Kydd says 11 community members contribute to each article by fulfilling the discreet functions [...]

]]> By: seo edinburgh http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-459222 seo edinburgh Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:02:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-459222 I do agree with all the ideas you have offered in your post. They're very convincing and can definitely work. Still, the posts are very brief for starters. Could you please prolong them a little from next time? Thanks for the post. I do agree with all the ideas you have offered in your post. They’re very convincing and can definitely work. Still, the posts are very brief for starters. Could you please prolong them a little from next time? Thanks for the post.

]]> By: Google reacciona contra las granjas de contenido. ¿Duelo en (SE)O.K Corral? – Javier de Vega | http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-453844 Google reacciona contra las granjas de contenido. ¿Duelo en (SE)O.K Corral? – Javier de Vega | Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:47:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-453844 [...] funciona la manivela para que Demand Media genere 4.000 piezas de contenido cada día? Lo explica el genial Jeff Jarvis tras una conversación con el CEO de Demand Media: Kydd says 11 community members contribute to each article by fulfilling the discreet functions [...] [...] funciona la manivela para que Demand Media genere 4.000 piezas de contenido cada día? Lo explica el genial Jeff Jarvis tras una conversación con el CEO de Demand Media: Kydd says 11 community members contribute to each article by fulfilling the discreet functions [...]

]]> By: E-book Rights and Content Farms « The Xplanation http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-445444 E-book Rights and Content Farms « The Xplanation Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:30:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-445444 [...] quality over keyword algorithms. Jeff Jarvis picks up the thread and puts his argument this way: “algorithm-aided human writing will meet human-aided algorithmic curation; quality will rise.” I think we may see search fall as the sole or even key means of discovery and filtering of quality [...] [...] quality over keyword algorithms. Jeff Jarvis picks up the thread and puts his argument this way: “algorithm-aided human writing will meet human-aided algorithmic curation; quality will rise.” I think we may see search fall as the sole or even key means of discovery and filtering of quality [...]

]]> By: Google: Kampf gegen Content Farmen zeigt Erfolg | Mann im Schatten http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-444429 Google: Kampf gegen Content Farmen zeigt Erfolg | Mann im Schatten Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:38:06 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-444429 [...] Jeff Jarvis sagt viel, wenn der Tag nur lang genug ist. Bezüglich Content Farmen erklärte er Ende 2009, sie seien „Mist, der gerade gut genug sei, um Suchalgorithmen zu übertölpeln.“(von: wikipedia.de)  Die einzig richtige Antwort seien bessere Such-Algorithmen. Hoffentlich hat er Recht, dachten damals einige. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis sagt viel, wenn der Tag nur lang genug ist. Bezüglich Content Farmen erklärte er Ende 2009, sie seien „Mist, der gerade gut genug sei, um Suchalgorithmen zu übertölpeln.“(von: wikipedia.de)  Die einzig richtige Antwort seien bessere Such-Algorithmen. Hoffentlich hat er Recht, dachten damals einige. [...]

]]> By: Google reacciona contra las granjas de contenido. ¿Duelo en (SE)O.K Corral? « No solo contenidos http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-442326 Google reacciona contra las granjas de contenido. ¿Duelo en (SE)O.K Corral? « No solo contenidos Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:20:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-442326 [...] funciona la manivela para que Demand Media genere 4.000 piezas de contenido cada día? Lo explica el genial Jeff Jarvis tras una conversación con el CEO de Demand Media: Kydd says 11 community members contribute to each article by fulfilling the discreet functions [...] [...] funciona la manivela para que Demand Media genere 4.000 piezas de contenido cada día? Lo explica el genial Jeff Jarvis tras una conversación con el CEO de Demand Media: Kydd says 11 community members contribute to each article by fulfilling the discreet functions [...]

]]> By: A few thoughts (and some links) about content mills… | Blog, by Shannon http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-419655 A few thoughts (and some links) about content mills… | Blog, by Shannon Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:46:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-419655 [...] Media, Blogs & Google Should Be Worried and How Google Can Combat Content Farms (ReadWriteWeb) Content farms v. curating farmers (BuzzMachine) Content dust bowls (Magellan Media) The Future of Media Isn’t Free Content, [...] [...] Media, Blogs & Google Should Be Worried and How Google Can Combat Content Farms (ReadWriteWeb) Content farms v. curating farmers (BuzzMachine) Content dust bowls (Magellan Media) The Future of Media Isn’t Free Content, [...]

]]> By: Contentville | http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-419440 Contentville | Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:05:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-419440 [...] to see how Google handles this invasion of smart page view generating machines. MacManus and Jeff Jarvis offer their suggestions. This entry was posted in Webindon. Bookmark the permalink. ← [...] [...] to see how Google handles this invasion of smart page view generating machines. MacManus and Jeff Jarvis offer their suggestions. This entry was posted in Webindon. Bookmark the permalink. ← [...]

]]> By: MediaShift . Your Guide to Next Generation 'Content Farms' | PBS http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-418699 MediaShift . Your Guide to Next Generation 'Content Farms' | PBS Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:23:52 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-418699 [...] producers. For more information about how Demand Studios' editorial workflow functions, check out this BuzzMachine post by Jeff Jarvis interviewing Steven Kydd, who oversees production of content on the Demand Studios [...] [...] producers. For more information about how Demand Studios' editorial workflow functions, check out this BuzzMachine post by Jeff Jarvis interviewing Steven Kydd, who oversees production of content on the Demand Studios [...]

]]> By: For Better Content, Go Local | webdancers http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-418357 For Better Content, Go Local | webdancers Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:23:49 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-418357 [...] professor Jeff Jarvis thinks that decrying the lowering of information standards online rather misses the point. They may [...] [...] professor Jeff Jarvis thinks that decrying the lowering of information standards online rather misses the point. They may [...]

]]> By: Demand Media (2) « Basedow1764's Weblog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-413501 Demand Media (2) « Basedow1764's Weblog Wed, 05 May 2010 12:02:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-413501 [...] Jeff Jarvis, der Internetoptimist, ist zuversichtlich. Das Internet habe schon immer viel Mist enthalten. Letztlich führe Demand Media wieder zu steigender Qualität des Internets: Googles Suchmaschine müsste halt besser werden im Finden guter Treffermeldungen. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis, der Internetoptimist, ist zuversichtlich. Das Internet habe schon immer viel Mist enthalten. Letztlich führe Demand Media wieder zu steigender Qualität des Internets: Googles Suchmaschine müsste halt besser werden im Finden guter Treffermeldungen. [...]

]]> By: The iPad and How We Understand Content | Media and Tech http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-411786 The iPad and How We Understand Content | Media and Tech Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:07:38 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-411786 [...] When we email a link to a friend, that act creates content. When we comment on content, we create content. When we mention a movie in Twitter - that’s just useless chatter, right? - our tweets add up to valuable content: a predictor of movie box office that’s 97.3% accurate. When we take a picture and load it up to Flickr - 4 billion times - that’s content. When we say something about those photos - tagging them or captioning them or saying where they were taken - that’s content. When we do these things on Facebook, which can see our social graph, that creates a meta layer that adds more value to our content. On Foursquare, our actions become content (the fact that this bar is more popular than that bar is information worth having). When we file a health complaint about a restaurant, that’s content. Our movements on highways, tracked through our cellphones, creates content: traffic reports. Our search queries are content (that awareness - that new ability to listen to the public’s questions - led Demand Media to a big business). [...] [...] When we email a link to a friend, that act creates content. When we comment on content, we create content. When we mention a movie in Twitter – that’s just useless chatter, right? – our tweets add up to valuable content: a predictor of movie box office that’s 97.3% accurate. When we take a picture and load it up to Flickr - 4 billion times – that’s content. When we say something about those photos – tagging them or captioning them or saying where they were taken – that’s content. When we do these things on Facebook, which can see our social graph, that creates a meta layer that adds more value to our content. On Foursquare, our actions become content (the fact that this bar is more popular than that bar is information worth having). When we file a health complaint about a restaurant, that’s content. Our movements on highways, tracked through our cellphones, creates content: traffic reports. Our search queries are content (that awareness – that new ability to listen to the public’s questions – led Demand Media to a big business). [...]

]]> By: Contentville « Myblog's Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-409558 Contentville « Myblog's Blog Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:45:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-409558 [...] to see how Google handles this invasion of smart page view generating machines. MacManus and Jeff Jarvis offer their suggestions. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Online Video Tips to Help [...] [...] to see how Google handles this invasion of smart page view generating machines. MacManus and Jeff Jarvis offer their suggestions. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Online Video Tips to Help [...]

]]> By: Kneerudge's Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-409456 Kneerudge's Blog Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:54:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-409456 [...] to see how Google handles this invasion of smart page view generating machines. MacManus and Jeff Jarvis offer their [...] [...] to see how Google handles this invasion of smart page view generating machines. MacManus and Jeff Jarvis offer their [...]

]]> By: Demand Media’s advisors « BuzzMachine http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-409319 Demand Media’s advisors « BuzzMachine Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:22:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-409319 [...] has the details at PaidContent. I was invited to join but decided to decline. I’ve been saying a lot about Demand — sometimes disagreeing with the common and negative perception that it is [...] [...] has the details at PaidContent. I was invited to join but decided to decline. I’ve been saying a lot about Demand — sometimes disagreeing with the common and negative perception that it is [...]

]]> By: Content Farms - The Who, What and Why. — Explicitly Me - Rishi Lakhani's Home on the Web http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-407815 Content Farms - The Who, What and Why. — Explicitly Me - Rishi Lakhani's Home on the Web Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:18:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-407815 [...] Quality based content farms aren’t a new concept either. Answers.com and  About.com fit the bill and have been milling the content out for years. And google adsense revenue finances many of these sites. I would also argue the case for Mahalo and MoneySavingExpert being included in the label of content farms . MSE had over 71m  Page Impressions December 2009, while Mahalo averages 15Million unique visitors and over 1Million Adsense Clicks a month.  However, I doubt that the writers / developers of this content are paid anywhere near that in perspective: Demand pays from $0 (with revenue sharing) to $100 per piece; it averages at $20. Copy editors make $2.50-$3 per piece, which works out to $15-20 an hour. He said these people like to wake up and know there’s work they can do—there are 100k assignments waiting for takers right now—while they wait for old, human editors to respond to pitches. He said they also like being paid twice a week. Kydd said Demand employed 4,500 creators (text and video) and 400 copy editors in the last 30 days. Source [...] [...] Quality based content farms aren’t a new concept either. Answers.com and  About.com fit the bill and have been milling the content out for years. And google adsense revenue finances many of these sites. I would also argue the case for Mahalo and MoneySavingExpert being included in the label of content farms . MSE had over 71m  Page Impressions December 2009, while Mahalo averages 15Million unique visitors and over 1Million Adsense Clicks a month.  However, I doubt that the writers / developers of this content are paid anywhere near that in perspective: Demand pays from $0 (with revenue sharing) to $100 per piece; it averages at $20. Copy editors make $2.50-$3 per piece, which works out to $15-20 an hour. He said these people like to wake up and know there’s work they can do—there are 100k assignments waiting for takers right now—while they wait for old, human editors to respond to pitches. He said they also like being paid twice a week. Kydd said Demand employed 4,500 creators (text and video) and 400 copy editors in the last 30 days. Source [...]

]]> By: Martin Mosch http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-407364 Martin Mosch Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:12:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-407364 Hi, I recently wrote an article on content farming at Smart Mosch. But what surprises me to find is that these articles are not that rare actually. Searching for "content farms" actually returns very relevant results. So this means..we're actually moving! Of course, there's more to wait until "what is given" meets at its highest "what is actually relevant" in terms of content and news. You can read my article: "Content Farms: To Write or Not To Write for?" at http://www.smartmosch.com/2010/01/13/content-farms/ Hi, I recently wrote an article on content farming at Smart Mosch. But what surprises me to find is that these articles are not that rare actually. Searching for “content farms” actually returns very relevant results. So this means..we’re actually moving! Of course, there’s more to wait until “what is given” meets at its highest “what is actually relevant” in terms of content and news.

You can read my article: “Content Farms: To Write or Not To Write for?” at http://www.smartmosch.com/2010/01/13/content-farms/

]]> By: psmith, journalist › Why algorithms are the future of publishing, but the UK is behind schedule http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-407123 psmith, journalist › Why algorithms are the future of publishing, but the UK is behind schedule Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:07:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-407123 [...] news, for example – though its system is absolutely something news media could learn from. As Prof Jarvis puts it, the “public knows what it wants to know” a damn sight better than any number of [...] [...] news, for example – though its system is absolutely something news media could learn from. As Prof Jarvis puts it, the “public knows what it wants to know” a damn sight better than any number of [...]

]]> By: Stumblers.net › Content farms v. curating farmers http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-407032 Stumblers.net › Content farms v. curating farmers Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:15:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-407032 [...] Content farms v. curating farmers « BuzzMachine. Share and [...] [...] Content farms v. curating farmers « BuzzMachine. Share and [...]

]]> By: Minnov8 Gang 62: Our 2010 Predictions | Minnov8 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-406781 Minnov8 Gang 62: Our 2010 Predictions | Minnov8 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:20:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-406781 [...] BuzzMachine: “Content farms v. curating farmers“ [...] [...] BuzzMachine: “Content farms v. curating farmers“ [...]

]]> By: The Catchphrase of the Decade « The view from Alvin http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-406774 The Catchphrase of the Decade « The view from Alvin Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:09:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-406774 [...] rearranging other people’s stuff. My friend Jeff Jarvis, master of jargon, actually had a headline: “Content farms v. [writers as] curating farmers.” Yes massa [...] [...] rearranging other people’s stuff. My friend Jeff Jarvis, master of jargon, actually had a headline: “Content farms v. [writers as] curating farmers.” Yes massa [...]

]]> By: Responder a las demandas de información | José Luis Sarralde http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-406596 Responder a las demandas de información | José Luis Sarralde Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:09:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-406596 [...] de información « Prev December 28th, 2009, 1:09H · Topics: Periodismo · PrintJeff Jarvis (Buzzmachine) hace referencia en su blog (traducido por 233grados.com) al nuevo modelo de [...] [...] de información « Prev December 28th, 2009, 1:09H · Topics: Periodismo · PrintJeff Jarvis (Buzzmachine) hace referencia en su blog (traducido por 233grados.com) al nuevo modelo de [...]

]]> By: links for 2009-12-21 | Joanna Geary http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-406329 links for 2009-12-21 | Joanna Geary Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:01:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-406329 [...] Content farms v. curating farmers "I think we may see search fall as the sole or even key means of discovery and filtering of quality content. I see three rings of discovery today: search (Google); algorithms (see: Google News, Daylife); and humans (see: Twitter). " (tags: journalism socialmedia collaboration aggregator) [...] [...] Content farms v. curating farmers "I think we may see search fall as the sole or even key means of discovery and filtering of quality content. I see three rings of discovery today: search (Google); algorithms (see: Google News, Daylife); and humans (see: Twitter). " (tags: journalism socialmedia collaboration aggregator) [...]

]]> By: Derek Slater http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-406321 Derek Slater Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:15:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-406321 There's much good here both in the post and the discussion. However, speaking of herrings, I think there's an implication of a false either/or here. In B2B media (yes, the poor stepchildren), before the Web was prevalent we spent a lot of money on reader surveys, and more significantly most interviews began or ended with questions like "So what else are you thinking about? What's keeping you up at night?" Yes, gasp, this concept predates the Internet. I think most publications run a mix of what we KNOW readers want and what WE think they will want. Hubris? I guess so. Any act of creation requires a little, wouldn't you say? There’s much good here both in the post and the discussion.

However, speaking of herrings, I think there’s an implication of a false either/or here. In B2B media (yes, the poor stepchildren), before the Web was prevalent we spent a lot of money on reader surveys, and more significantly most interviews began or ended with questions like “So what else are you thinking about? What’s keeping you up at night?” Yes, gasp, this concept predates the Internet.

I think most publications run a mix of what we KNOW readers want and what WE think they will want. Hubris? I guess so. Any act of creation requires a little, wouldn’t you say?

]]> By: This week in media musings: The Demand Media invasion, and ‘objectivity’ trumps transparency | Mark Coddington http://www.buzzmachine.com/2009/12/14/content-farms-v-curating-farmers/#comment-406259 This week in media musings: The Demand Media invasion, and ‘objectivity’ trumps transparency | Mark Coddington Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:37:06 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=5702#comment-406259 [...] few others noted that Google seems to be losing its battle against SEO-gaming spammers. Meanwhile, Jeff Jarvis says news orgs might have something to learn from [...] [...] few others noted that Google seems to be losing its battle against SEO-gaming spammers. Meanwhile, Jeff Jarvis says news orgs might have something to learn from [...]

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