Comments on: The cockeyed economics of metering reading

By: Paywalls Actually Do Pay Off | M{2e}

Paywalls Actually Do Pay Off | M{2e} — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:18:41 +0000

[...] the Times is doomed has become something of a business in itself.) Michael Wolff mocked the idea, Jeff Jarvis called it a sign of failure, and Cory Doctorow wondered whether it was “wishful thinking or just [...]

By: Quis custodiet ipsos consultants? « FREE RIDE

Quis custodiet ipsos consultants? « FREE RIDE — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:46:20 +0000

[...] punditry agreed that the Times paywall was an awful idea. Michael Wolff ridiculed it. Jeff Jarvis saw it as a sign of failure. And Cory Doctorow, who manages to be taken seriously as a business pundit even though he [...]

By: How will a New York Times paywall work? | Richard Hartley

How will a New York Times paywall work? | Richard Hartley — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:40:53 +0000

[...] BBC for that title. Instead, I fear, it will duck into its shell as the Washington Post has," said the American web evangelist and MediaGuardian columnist Jeff Jarvis. The New York Times declined to comment, saying it will announce its decision when it is ready. [...]

By: » Kan verdens bedste tjene penge på betalingsmur? - Tech tjek - teknologi til folket

Fri, 01 Apr 2011 04:19:19 +0000

[...] blandt den digitale elite, som for eksempel journalisten og forfatteren Jeff Jarvis, der er en indædt modstander af modstander af [...]

By: Now appearing in the garage « Kenny Smith | Blog

Now appearing in the garage « Kenny Smith | Blog — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:49:29 +0000

[...] it seems, wants to be free. So now we’ll join former boss Jeff Jarvis, mid-explanation: But that is based on the assumption that content is a consumable, a scarcity that [...]

By: How will a New York Times paywall work? | Bizzmodels

How will a New York Times paywall work? | Bizzmodels — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:24:47 +0000

By: This Week in Review: The New York Times’ paywall plans, and what’s behind MediaNews’ bankruptcy | Mark Coddington

Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:49:54 +0000

[...] around it, NYU’s Jay Rosen echoes C.W. Anderson’s thoughts on niche vs. public, and CUNY’s Jeff Jarvis doesn’t like the Times’ sense of [...]

By: Question of the Week, February 17 « Fit to Print

Question of the Week, February 17 « Fit to Print — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:04:25 +0000

[...] glory? Probably not. It is entirely possible that the cries of paid content critics – that readers will revolt against the supreme gall of being forced to pay, simply choosing to subsist entirely on aggregated news bites and slanted regurgitations and [...]

By: Glenn

Glenn — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:51:21 +0000

Media NewsGroup is no NY Times. If the Times metering fails again, they will figure something else out. MNG is not a leader and I would not find 25 premium articles a month worth paying for. They are doing metering with a company managed/owned by recycled TCI cable TV execs. The experiment will be a failure and add more debt to the billion the banks just took in equity.

By: Paolo Priotto

Paolo Priotto — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:57:54 +0000

How many people do you think are going to meter their own reading using browser extensions and stuff? Do you really think the average Times reader is as geeky as you?
I’ll go one step further: How many people will even NOTICE, or care about, that the Times has started metering them? After a certain amount of articles, a message will pop up telling them that to continue reading they’ll have to register to a free 30-day trial, much like in the offline world. And they’ll have you Amazon vouchers if you make your friend subscribe, and so on.

I really don’t think the average news reader is hopping around the web as easily as you might expect. There’s free porn on the web, too, but people are just too lazy to look for it, so they prefer paying.

By: links for 2010-01-28 « Glenna DeRoy

links for 2010-01-28 « Glenna DeRoy — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:06:31 +0000

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By: Why the New York Times Can Charge Its Online Readers | BNET Intercom | BNET

Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:18:17 +0000

[...] The conventional Web 2.0 wisdom claims “content wants to be free” and whichever publisher gives away the most content and attracts the biggest audience will win in the long run thanks to advertising dollars. If one site puts up a paywall, the thinking goes, its readers will all migrate to the free choice and that organization will wither away after losing … [...]

By: Canadian Media Research Blog, Journalism Industry News

Canadian Media Research Blog, Journalism Industry News — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:43:26 +0000

[...] commentator Jeff Jarvis says it is a mistake to charge those who continually return to the website because they are its most [...]

By: Do you know who your customers are? « Rakeshbutkury’s Blog

Do you know who your customers are? « Rakeshbutkury’s Blog — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:40:35 +0000

[...] Do you know who your customers are? By Rakesh Butkury It’s funny to see that for some companies it’s not really clear who their customers are: are readers the customers of newspapers, and are newspapers providing them a services by selling them news? Or are advertisers the customers and are newspapers in the business of selling attention to the advertisers? [...]

By: Do you know who your customers are? :: Andrej Koelewijn

Do you know who your customers are? :: Andrej Koelewijn — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:03:45 +0000

[...] customers of newspapers, and are newspapers providing them a services by selling them news? Or are advertisers the customers and are newspapers in the business of selling attention to the advertisers? Share and [...]

By: NYT’s Freemium Pay-wall Plan is (maybe) Good Business

NYT’s Freemium Pay-wall Plan is (maybe) Good Business — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:42:22 +0000

[...] readers for access to their web site (see the official press release). Reaction was predictable: Jeff Jarvis complained, TechCrunch ran some numbers, and Mashable used it as an excuse to talk about a rumored but still [...]

By: Pole vault over the paywall « InfoMash

Pole vault over the paywall « InfoMash — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:26:34 +0000

[...] “another Web site,” therefore all articles found that way will be free and accessible, [notes] Jeff Jarvis (“The New York Times is going to start metering readers and charging those who come back more [...]

By: Week-old News: Volume 8, Jan. 24, 2010 | Fly on the news

Week-old News: Volume 8, Jan. 24, 2010 | Fly on the news — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:23:03 +0000

[...] experts have strong feelings about the plan. Jeff Jarvis blogged here about the paper charging its best customers, risking driving them away. Steve Outing, meanwhile, [...]

By: jardenberg kommenterar – 2010-01-23 — jardenberg unedited

jardenberg kommenterar – 2010-01-23 — jardenberg unedited — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:06:15 +0000

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By: jeff mignon

jeff mignon — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 04:01:07 +0000

I have the feeling that it is time to do some math here… in order to have a clearer idea on the potential revenue for the NYT. We’ll do that soon.

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:48:19 +0000

Would you pay more than $400?

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:47:40 +0000

Except, Cliff, like a bundled cable sub, there are huge parts of The Times I don’t read: sports, for example. I’ve argued in the past that The Times should become a national paper and spin off Metro, which costs more than it brings in in endemic advertising, especially since the Times’ NYC audience is not actually that big. If the Times cut printing and distribution it would cut huge cost. Yes, revenue would go with that but let’s look at the total P&L. I am paying to support printers along with reporters. Nice guys, I’m sure but they don’t add value.

By: tecosystems » Why I Think the Times Charging for Online Access is a Bad Idea, and How I Think They Could and Should Make Money

Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:39:00 +0000

[...] will I attempt to claim that the economics here are simple or, as Jeff Jarvis puts it, “cockeyed.” When one of the most visible brand names in journalism is forced to borrow against its own [...]

By: This Week in Review: The New York Times’ paywall plans, and what’s behind MediaNews’ bankruptcy » Nieman Journalism Lab

Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:07:01 +0000

[...] NYU’s Jay Rosen echoes C.W. Anderson’s thoughts on niche vs. public, and CUNY’s Jeff Jarvis doesn’t like the Times’ sense of [...]

By: Mayuresh

Mayuresh — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:21:43 +0000

This may have been touched on already but I wonder if the Times has considered how many of their readers in developing countries would pay to access their content? From my experience of growing up in India, the penetration of credit cards is extremely low when compared with other, more developed, countries. And even when credit cards are available there is hesitancy in using it online — even if it means using it for something as well known as the NY Times.

As many have already said, this is such a large barrier and contrary to what we’ve been used to for the past decade or so, that people will simply stop going to the NYT website which eventually will just be an also-ran, rather than a leader like it ought to be.

Mayuresh