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1. kat Says:
   August 27th, 2006 at 8:53 am

   I just hope some Muslim doesn’t put a fatwah on their heads when they become apostates. What a sad little cult that feels it can only save face by forcing people to cnvert to their crap.

2. Brooklyn Kitchen Says:
   August 27th, 2006 at 11:21 am

   Man. Give those journalists a break. The can say whatever the hell the want to say, given the circumstances. How can you be critical of recently freed hostages?

3. Mike G Says:
   August 27th, 2006 at 11:51 am

   I suspect they feel that expressing the “fuck you” they undoubtedly feel would only make life harder for the next journalists to get kidnapped.

4. PSGInfinity Says:
   August 27th, 2006 at 12:19 pm

   I wonder how the Muslims will react when they find out that agreements made under duress are voidable in civilization?

5. Robert Feinman Says:
   August 27th, 2006 at 1:48 pm

   Every once in awhile I come across something which seems to be appropriate by coincidence.

   The Fixation of Belief by C.S. Pierce (1877).

   Let the will of the state act, then, instead of that of the individual. Let an institution be created which shall have for its object to keep correct doctrines before the attention of the people, to reiterate them perpetually, and to teach them to the young; having at the same time power to prevent contrary doctrines from being taught, advocated, or expressed. Let all possible causes of a change of mind be removed from men’s apprehensions. Let them be kept ignorant, lest they should learn of some reason to think otherwise than they do. Let their passions be enlisted, so that they may regard private and unusual opinions with hatred and horror. Then, let all men who reject the established belief be terrified into silence. Let the people turn out and tar-and-feather such men, or let inquisitions be made into the manner of thinking of suspected persons, and when they are found guilty of forbidden beliefs, let them be subjected to some signal punishment. When complete agreement could not otherwise be reached, a general massacre of all who have not thought in a certain way has proved a very effective means of settling opinion in a country. If the power to do this be wanting, let a list of opinions be drawn up, to which no man of the least independence of thought can assent, and let the faithful be required to accept all these propositions, in order to segregate them as radically as possible from the influence of the rest of the world.

6. greeneyeshade Says:
   August 28th, 2006 at 1:10 am

   kat, PSGInfinity,
   Muslims already know that forced conversions don’t count, or at least some of them used to.
   As I remember the story (I think I got it from Bernard Lewis), Moses Maimonides, the great Jewish philosopher and theologian, was living in Spain when a fundamentalist group took over and told him (like others) to convert or die. He said the words, fled to Egypt and returned to Judaism. When he was charged there with apostasy, the case came before a judge who was a friend and patron of Maimonides’; he ruled that Maimonides couldn’t be guilty of renouncing a faith he had adopted only under duress.
   How that plays out in the reporters’ case will be interesting, though.

7. Eileen Says:
   August 28th, 2006 at 2:42 am

   I submit they are already deemed apostates as a result of disclosing their ‘conversion’ was at the point of a gun. (Although the girlfriend/wife? of the photographer did say ‘inshallah’ during the news blurb I saw!?) They will never again have another moment of safety or peace.

   Under Islam, ALL infidels have the ‘choice’ of either conversion at the point of a gun, threat/”invitation” [ala Ahmalittledespot's letter to Bush or OBL's offers to the West], bomb or scimitar; submission/paying the jizya/living pursuant to Sharia law; or Dying.

   If forced conversions don’t really count according to Islamic tradition, but the only other stated ‘choices’ are those which remain, what does it really matter?

   The Religion of Peace - oh yeah.

   I wonder what the left/media finds so attractive about Sharia choices.

8. insignificant thoughts » Blog Archive » Newfound Respect For Islam Says:
   August 31st, 2006 at 4:01 pm

   [...] And as usual, he’s right. [...]

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