Posts Tagged ‘Dell’

Dell Hell: One of many postscripts

Friday, July 29th, 2005

I hope Rick Segal won’t mind my quoting this in entirety but it’s too wonderful a postscript to my Dell saga (which isn’t quite over but will be momentarily, a coda to follow):

I work in an office tower with standard food courts all filled with people like me; complaining about prices but too lazy to make our lunch at home.

I happened to be sitting across from a couple of bank tellers from TD Canada Trust, the bank in our building. These two ladies I’d seen before so I knew where they worked.

Lady one: I was going to buy a new Dell but did you hear about Jeff Jarvis and the absolute hell he is going through with them.

Lady two: Yeah, I know the IT guy told me that the cobler blog was recommending we stay away from Dell.

Okay, after you are done laughing at this; laughing at Scoble’s name being mangled, laughing at two random bank tellers talking about some one line blog entry about some guy pissed off about his Dell experience; after you are done: Pay Attention.

I’ll accept that an IT guy would be reading scoble’s blog. I’ll even accept the IT guy offering an opinion which, randomly, I overheard.

The pay attention part: Lots of people (Dell?) are making the assumption that “average people” or “the masses” don’t really see/read blogs so, we take a little heat and move on.

Big mistake.

That interchange probably cost Dell at least two sales and lord only knows how many over time. And those lost sales are coming from a feedback system that didn’t matter a few years ago.

This “blogging stuff” is moving mainstream seriously fast. You and your management team had better be watching what’s going on because Jeff Jarvis and Aunt Mildred both have blogs and both can call BS on whatever BS you are serving up.

[Side note: I don't think Scoble ever said don't buy Dell as the Redmond OEM Mafia would have him killed. ;-) ]

That lunch is on me, Rick.

Dell Hell: Deaf and dumb

Monday, July 11th, 2005

One of the great lessons of the cluetrain era is that your customers are your best customer support agents and marketers if only you allow them … and respect them enough to listen to them. Dell does’t. As we reported the other day, Dell shut its general customer forums… which should be the place for customers to help each other. Dwight Silverman found Dell’s company line:

As for the Customer Care board, many of the non-technical issues posted there can only be addressed by authorized Dell representatives with access to customer information – not by peers as the Forum is designed to facilitate. That said, these questions are best handled through other secure online tools.

Or, clueless Dell, your customers can just blog their questions and answers without you. Or should I say, former customers?

Dell Hell: The Postscript

Saturday, July 9th, 2005

Houston Chron tech guru Dwight Silverman decided to call Dell and find out what their policy and strategy is regarding issues their customers raise in these newfangled blog things. That’s whatcha call real reporting.

I spoke with Jennifer J. Davis, a spokesperson in Dell’s consumer products group, who said that Dell does indeed monitor online blogs and discussion forums. She would not say how many people are engaged in doing so.

However, it’s a policy of look, don’t touch — those monitoring do not respond publicly, nor do they try to make contact pro-actively.

“The best process for getting issues addressed is to contact us directly,” she said.

Of course, for those U.S. customers frustrated with loophole-ridden repair/return policies, overseas call centers whose employees can’t master English or techs who can’t think outside the script, direct communication doesn’t always result in customer satisfaction.

Davis said the company aims its resources at fixing these problems, hoping that improved customer experiences will translate into more positive buzz. She said internal surveys show an uptick in customer satisfaction, and is hoping soon-to-be-released independent studies will echo those results.

Those who are waiting for Dell’s executives and technical types to blog a la competitor HP, you’ll be on hold for a while: There are no plans for sanctioned Dell blogs anytime soon.

However, Davis said the company is formulating a policy for employee blogs that should be released soon.

She said Dell sees blogs as unnecessary at this time.

“With our direct model, we feel like we already have a good, two-way communications channel with our customers,” Davis said.

Of course, it depends on what you do with the incoming communication. A two-way conversation only has value if you take action on the problems you’re hearing about.

Clueless. Absolutely clueless. And keep in mind that this is a technology company. It’s also a company that doesn’t have a retail channel and so it should have a different, direct, new, and better relationship with its customers. Instead, it’s worse.

I repeat my offer, Dell: If you’re reading this, I’ll come and explain it to you. PowerPoint primed and ready.

: Christopher Carfi at the Social Customer Manifesto has been tracking the Dell saga and also has some great reporting. He found out that And so he used that vaunted Dell two-way communication to find out why they’re cutting off that two-way communication in an IM with a faraway land.

: And all that pretty much answers the Blog Business Summit’s Dell Cluewatch: They asked anyone who ever heard from Dell after posting about the company to come forward. They’re going to wait a very, very long time: When Dell Hell freezes over.

Dell hell: Where’s the flack when you need him?

Monday, July 4th, 2005

Steve Broback at the Blog Business Summit looks up Dell’s PR company’s web site on blogs and it says:

One refers to an ancient (feb 2003) Fortune article with blog in the headline, and the other assures clients that OutCast is on top of the whole crazy, kooky blog thing:

Blogger Relations
Here’s what every technology vendor fears about blogs: they don’t know what they don’t know. OutCast navigates the confusing world of the blogosphere on behalf of our clients so they can focus on their business. There are an estimated 9 million blogs today, but which ones matter to you? It’s our job not only to tell you, but to help you negotiate that terrain. How do we do this? Remember when News.com was new? Remember when Usenet mattered? We do. So relax. Breathe. Whether it’s radio in the 1920s, TV in the 1950s or the Web in the 1990s, new media is new media.

Except when it’s not media, when it’s customers talking.

Dell hell: nearing the end (and aren’t you glad?)

Sunday, July 3rd, 2005

Yes, I bought the Powerbook. And, yes, there have been moments when I’ve despaired: It feels like moving to Paris and not speaking French (though it sure is pretty there). There is as much illogic in part of the Mac world as in the Microsoft world. I damned near didn’t get my printer working (and I still cannot get the proper drive installed; I keep installing the installer and then it won’t show up anywhere). I damned near didn’t get my Treo to sync. But I have it. And so, next week, I’ll send the Dell back.

Meanwhile… Dwight Silverman, tech guru of the Houston Chronicle, writes about the saga here:

For at least the last three years, I’ve heard a growing number of complaints from consumers about Dell’s customer service. The gripes run from the basic — confusing phone menus, ridiculous hold times, clueless tech support relying too much on scripts, outsourced call centers with poor English-language skills — to the more complex, including accusations of not honoring the specifics of premium warranties and using loopholes to avoid fixing or replacing defective parts.

I’ve asked Dell executives about this repeatedly, most recently at January’s Consumer Electronics Show. The answer is always either a.) we’re aware of this and we’re working to solve the problem, or b.) we’re aware of the problem and we believe it’s getting better.

But I don’t think it has.

He quotes Ed Bott who says, quite rightly,

I’m writing to express my disgust with the response that Jeff’s series of rants got from other people who have high-traffic Web sites that are run by popular content-management systems (blogs, I think they’re called). These folks seem to think that because Jeff is semi-famous and gets quoted a lot on other Web sites and occasionally has his face on TV to talk about these blog things, he’s entitled to special treatment.

There’s no doubt that Jeff’s high Google juice will result in lots of people reading about his experience. When they do, they’ll get an accurate picture of how broken Dell’s customer service is and how their Complete Care guarantee doesn’t deliver on its promises….

Google Dell customer service problems and you get 2,950,000 hits, with titles like “My unbelievable experiences with Dell” and “How bad is Dell support? A lot!” and “If you have problems, expect no assistance from Dell” all on the first page of results. (And Jeff, if you had done that search before you made the purchase, maybe you wouldn’t have bought from Dell.)

My point is that there is already plenty of evidence available to anyone who knows how to use Google that Dell’s customer service sucks, to put it mildly. Granting special treatment to so-called A-listers only convinces me that A is for arrogant.

A is for absolutely right. Here’s what I said in response in his comments:

I agree that bloggers on whatever list shouldn’t be treated differently. But if Dell were smart, it would use blogs as an opportunity to see what customers are saying … and to fix problems (and get good PR for it)… and to learn about their own products and service…
Dell has people clipping media services to see what Walt Mossberg is saying and, yes, Walt is influential, but he’s not a consumer; he’s a reporter.
On blogs, Dell would find its consumers… including the many thousands who are pissed at Dell. That should teach them something. But it won’t if they won’t listen.

: Jason Calacanis follows the saga here; Steve Rubel does here; Robert Scoble does here.

Damned technology

Saturday, July 2nd, 2005

I haven’t been on the blog because I’ve been too busy trying to migrate from the Dell to the Powerbook. This is the second weekend in a row that I’ve wasted thanks to PCs (and, yes, I blame Dell… if I had the slightest faith that a new machine would work and that their service would work, I wouldn’t be doing this now… wasting time and a great deal of money). No matter what the manufacturer, we would not tolerate this degree of difficulty with cars, dishwashers, and phones… all about as complex as a PC. What a pain.

Dell hell: Seller beware

Friday, July 1st, 2005

The age of caveat emptor is over.

Now the time has come when it’s the seller who must beware. Caveat venditor.

A company can no longer get away with consistently offering shoddy products or service or ignoring customers’ concerns and needs.

For now the customers can talk back where they can be heard. Those customers can gang up and share what they know and give their complaints volume. Of course, they can use their reviews and complaints to have a big impact on a company’s reputation and business.

Public relations has to take on a new meaning. It can no longer be about the press and publicity, which just separate companies from the public they are supposed to serve.

Public relations must be about a new relationship with the public, with the public in charge.

: All that is quite obvious to any of us. But it is far from obvious to too many big companies … like Dell.

I tested Dell and they failed. Their customer service mechanism did not recognize a machine and service pattern and customer that were a mess. They didn’t try to fix it.

I could have stayed on the phone for hours and gone up a tier at a time playing the customer having a psycho fit (ask anyone who has heard me go after customer service people who don’t serve: I play the role well).

Instead, I chose to write about the saga here. I chose to elicit the sympathy and conspiracy of fellow pissed-off Dell customers. I chose to see whether Dell is listening.

They are not.

Their media people were not reading the media that matters — media written by their very own customers. This page is already No. 5 in Google under Dell sucks. I gave them time. They failed.

So then I emailed their media department and told them to read this blog. I gave them a cheat sheet. They didn’t. They failed.

Only when I wrote to the Chief Marketing Officer, Michael A. George (michael_george@dell.com) did I get a rise out of the company: A very nice (of course) woman named Linda with an accent (Southern… and I don’t mean Bangalore) called to promise to ready the endless email exchange with Dell.

But as we say on the internet: That doesn’t scale. If every dissatisfied customer had to email the Chief Marketing Officer, Michael A. George (michael_george@dell.com), he’d never have time to market.

: So here’s where things stand right now. Linda offered scripted apologies (in the same breath that she read the standard notice that the call was being recorded). She didn’t hold onto her arguments about Dell policy on at-home service (when I said that her very own employee admitted that the at-home technician would not bring the parts necessary to fix the machine). She didn’t rise to the legal bait of calling the at-home program “fraudulent” and my complaining about lost work (can you say “compensatory damages”?).

She offered to send me a new machine.

I said I had no faith in Dell, in the quality of its products or its service.

I asked for a refund.

She then offered a full refund.

I said I would decide what to do my early next week.

In the meantime, Apple and PC cultists will battle over the dead body of my Dell.

: You know what: If Dell were really smart, they’d hire me (yes, me) to come to them and teach them about blogs, about how their customers now have a voice; about how their customers are a community — a community often in revolt; about how they could find out what their customers really think; about how they could fix their customers’ problems before they become revolts; about how they could become a better company with the help of their customers.

If they’d only listen.